Pope Francis denounces ‘trickle-down’ economic theories in critique of inequality

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Robert_Sock said:
OK, the Church, like Christ Himself, is neither liberal or conservative, but humanitarian.
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I guess I can agree with that I just don’t like putting labels on things especially in the Church. Well not label it except Catholic.
 
  1. Peace in society cannot be understood as pacification or the mere absence of violence resulting from the domination of one part of society over others. Nor does true peace act as a pretext for justifying a social structure which silences or appeases the poor, so that the more affluent can placidly support their lifestyle while others have to make do as they can. Demands involving the distribution of wealth, concern for the poor and human rights cannot be suppressed under the guise of creating a consensus on paper or a transient peace for a contented minority. The dignity of the human person and the common good rank higher than the comfort of those who refuse to renounce their privileges. When these values are threatened, a prophetic voice must be raised.
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Timothysis said:
Not when you take it behind a building and shoot it in the back of its head with a small caliber pistol.
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Are you saying there is nothing wrong with that?
Tell me, when has the world ever been a “society centered on Jesus?”
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When has the world (as a whole) ever taken to heart the words of Christ? That doesn’t mean we stop preaching the Gospel.
 
Timothysis said:
The bottom 50% of this country pay little to no taxes and are the ones who make-up the vast amounts receiving government benefits.
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This is the ridiculous statement that helped cost Governor Romney the presidential election. Why is it continued to be propagated?

Most of that bottom 50% pay many taxes. A partial list would include local sales tax, property taxes, state income taxes, federal taxes on gasoline, FICA, Medicare and local income taxes.

Furthermore, the bottom 50% don’t ‘make-up the vast amounts receiving government benefits’ according to the tables at the Heritage organization. See “Where Does the Money Go” at
heritage.org/research/reports/2013/08/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2013
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I am not sure what you mean by hoarding wealth? In my own case, I went from the bottom 20% of the wealth distribution to the top 20% over a period of about 20 years without killing myself. Not terribly difficult if you know what you are doing. I have friends who make the same money I do with much less wealth, mainly because of poor decision making. Wealth is one of the few areas where there are few barriers to entry. Anyone with a library card and the ability to read can learn how to create wealth.
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Hmmm , Yes if only all of them were to do it Stinkcat’s way! Peace, Carlan
 
Much of the poverty in the U.S. is not a lack of food and housing, but instead cultural and spiritual poverty.

If you look at neighborhoods in the U.S. that are considered impoverished, such as housing projects, you’ll see a breakdown of the family and morals, single parenthood, gang violence, functional illiteracy, drugs, and lack of personal sanitation.

You generally won’t see hunger. And, the housing by world standards is enviable, in many cases. It’s the neighbors that most of us wouldn’t want to live with.
 
Crossbones said:
This is the ridiculous statement that helped cost Governor Romney the presidential election. Why is it continued to be propagated?

Most of that bottom 50% pay many taxes. A partial list would include local sales tax, property taxes, state income taxes, federal taxes on gasoline, FICA, Medicare and local income taxes.

Furthermore, the bottom 50% don’t ‘make-up the vast amounts receiving government benefits’ according to the tables at the Heritage organization. See “Where Does the Money Go” at
heritage.org/research/reports/2013/08/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2013
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Romney said income taxes, he did not say anything about any other taxes. Many on the left believe as you imply above that he said any taxes.
 
Country_Gal said:
Much of the poverty in the U.S. is not a lack of food and housing, but instead cultural and spiritual poverty.

If you look at neighborhoods in the U.S. that are considered impoverished, such as housing projects, you’ll see a breakdown of the family and morals, single parenthood, gang violence, functional illiteracy, drugs, and lack of personal sanitation.

You generally won’t see hunger. And, the housing by world standards is enviable, in many cases.
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Ahh yes, that’s it, the dirty scoungers!!! So easy, is it not, to turn the truth around and back on to the poor and unfortunate. Peace, Carlan
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mgoforth said:
No one can really predict economic events. Economists certainly pretend that they can.
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Actually I would say most of them don’t. The rest of them I would say don’t predict because they know, but because they are asked. And they are paid to predict. If you want an economist to stop predicting, that is pretty easy, stop paying them to predict.
 
Carlan said:
Ahh yes, that’s it, the dirty scoungers!!! So easy, is it not, to turn the truth around and back on to the poor and unfortunate. Peace, Carlan
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You jump to conclusions about me so easily, while ignoring my point.

Material poverty is not the problem with America’s poor. We generally provide all the material necessities, food, housing, medical care and education.

Go visit an inner city housing project. Invite some of them to your home. Find out about them. Then get back to us with a full report. 😉
 
dmelosi said:
Romney said income taxes, he did not say anything about any other taxes. Many on the left believe as you imply above that he said any taxes.
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“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. … My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” - Mitt Romney

This sort of thinking helped reelect President Obama. The implication was obvious - they don’t pay taxes; they depend on the government for support, etc. So, let’s tick off a large portion of the electorate; many of whom are hard-working; many of whom are social conservatives; many of whom will/would vote for a good Republican candidate for President. Except there wasn’t one to vote for in November, 2012.
 
Robert_Sock said:
OK, the Church, like Christ Himself, is neither liberal or conservative, but humanitarian.
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Sometimes it seems that our work is fruitless, but mission is not like a business transaction or investment, or even a humanitarian activity…it is something much deeper, which escapes all measurement. - Evangelii Gaudium 279
 
Carlan said:
Yes, but everyone’s circumstances don’t happen to be the same as ours. Our pride can damage us greatly Stink
cat, Mea Culpa. Peace, Carlan
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But the point remains, wealth is not being horded.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
But the point remains, wealth is not being horded.
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It’s being used to increase short term consumption without a view to the long term. To quote the Apostolic Exhortation, “Today’s economic mechanisms promote inordinate consumption.”
 
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