Pope Francis: rigidity, worldliness a disaster for priests

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(Vatican Radio) Pope Francis celebrated Mass in the chapel of the Casa Santa Marta on Friday morning, focusing his remarks following the readings of the day on the need for priests to serve as authentic mediators of God’s love, rather than as intermediaries – “go-betweens” or “middle-men” – concerned only with advancing their own interests.

No to “go-between” priests, yest to priests who are mediators of God’s love
The role of the mediator is not that of the intermediary – and priests are called to be the former for their flock:

“The mediator gives himself (lit. perde se stesso) to unite the parties, he gives his life. That is the price: his life – he pays with his life, his fatigue, his work, so many things, but – in this case the pastor - to unite the flock, to unite people, to bring them to Jesus. The logic of Jesus as mediator is the logic of annihilating oneself. St. Paul in his Letter to the Philippians is clear on this: ‘He annihilated himself, emptied himself, and to achieve this union, [he did so] even unto death, death on a cross. That is the logic: to empty oneself, to annihilate oneself.”

The priest who abandons the task of being a mediator and instead prefers to be an intermediary si unhappy, and soon becomes sad – and he will seek happiness in vaunting himself and making his “authority” felt.
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Rigidity brings us to push away people who seek consolation**

Jesus had a powerful message for the “go-betweens” of his day, who enjoyed to stroll the squares to be seen:

“But to make themselves important, intermediary priests must take the path of rigidity: often disconnected from the people, they do not know what human suffering is; they forget what they had learned at home, with dad’s work, with mom’s, grandfather’s, grandmother’s, his brothers’ … They lose these things. They are rigid, [they are] those rigid ones that load upon the faithful so many things that they do not carry [themselves], as Jesus said to the intermediaries of his time: rigidity. [They face] the people of God with a switch in their hand: ‘This cannot be, this cannot be …’. And so many people approaching, looking for a bit of consolation, a little understanding, are chased away with this rigidity.”

When a rigid, worldly priest becomes a functionary, he ends up making himself ridiculous

Rigidity – which wrecks one’s interior life and even psychic balance – goes hand-in-glove with worldliness:

“About rigidity and worldliness, it was some time ago that an elderly monsignor of the curia came to me, who works, a normal man, a good man, in love with Jesus – and he told me that he had gone to buy a couple of shirts at Euroclero [the clerical clothing store] and saw a young fellow - he thinks he had not more than 25 years, or a young priest or about to become a priest - before the mirror, with a cape, large, wide, velvet, with a silver chain. He then took the Saturno [wide-brimmed clerical headgear], he put it on and looked himself over. A rigid and worldly one. And that priest – he is wise, that monsignor, very wise - was able to overcome the pain, with a line of healthy humor and added: ‘And it is said that the Church does not allow women priests!’. Thus, does the work that the priest does when he becomes a functionary ends in the ridiculous, always.”

You can recognize a good priest by whether he knows how to play with children

“In the examination of conscience,” Pope Francis said, “consider this: today was I a functionary or a mediator? Did I look after myself, did I look to my own comfort, my own comfort, or did I spend the day in the service of others?” The Pope went on to say, “Once, a person told me how he knew what kind of priest a man was by the attitude they had with children: if they knew how to caress a child, to smile at a child, to play with a child … It is interesting, that, because it means that they know this means lowering oneself, getting close to the little things.” Rather, said Pope Francis, “the go-between is sad, always with that sad face or the too serious, dark face. The intermediary has the dark eyes, very dark! The mediator is open: the smile, the warmth, the understanding, the caresses.”
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St. Polycarp, St. Francis Xavier, St. Paul: three icons of the mediator-priest**

In the final part of the homily the Pope then brought three “icons” of “mediator-priests and not intermediaries.” The first is the great Polycarp, who “does not negotiate his vocation and is brave all the way to the pyre, and when the fire is around him, the faithful who were there, they smelled the aroma of bread.”

“This,” he said, is how a mediator makes his end: as a piece of bread for his faithful.” Another icon is St. Francis Xavier, who died young on the beach of Shangchuan, “looking toward China” where he wanted to go but could not because the Lord took him to Himself. And then, the last icon: the elderly St. Paul at the Three Fountains. “Early that morning,” Pope Francis reminded those gathered for Mass, “the soldiers went to him, they got him, and he walked bent over.” He knew that that was because of the treachery of some in the Christian community but he had struggled so much, so much in his life, that he offered himself to the Lord as a sacrifice.”

“Three icons,” he concluded, “that can help us. Look there: how I want to end my life as a priest? As a functionary, as an intermediary, or as a mediator, that is, on the cross?”

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…You can recognize a good priest by whether he knows how to play with children…]
When faced with a moral dilemma in our youth, the instruction was “find a priest.” Now the adjective “good” or “holy” is too often is inserted. Pray for the Church.
 
When faced with a moral dilemma in our youth, the instruction was “find a priest.” Now the adjective “good” or “holy” is too often is inserted. Pray for the Church.
There have been weak, sinful priests throughout the Church’s history. Even in your youth. Depending on the era, there may have been more a “innate” respect for the authority of priests and an assumption of sanctity on the laity’s part.
 
There have been weak, sinful priests throughout the Church’s history. Even in your youth. Depending on the era, there may have been more a “innate” respect for the authority of priests and an assumption of sanctity on the laity’s part.
I think part of the problem is that for some decades, seminarians received poor educations in areas which would help the laity. That seems to be changing, considering the caliber of the young priests I have met.
 
Pope Francis delights in putting rigid and rigidity in a negative light. He is rigid in his criticism. I really miss Benedict XVI.
 
I’m always a little puzzled by Pope Francis’ comments on rigidity. If by rigidity is meant a lack of compassion for persons, I am rather surprised that in my own experience, I can’t recall meeting a priest of the “rigid” kind in any of my parishes.
 
I think part of the problem is that for some decades, seminarians received poor educations in areas which would help the laity. That seems to be changing, considering the caliber of the young priests I have met.
I would agree. Though Pope Francis has cited issues of “rigidity” with current seminaries and young priests, as opposed to those of recent decades. I don’t understand some of his comments on the clergy. Even the little anecdote he shares in the above link about the young seminarian / priest who was "worldly’ because he was trying on traditional, beautiful clerical garb strikes me as very odd… the garb of our Eastern brothers and sisters puts the most regal Latin garb to shame. Are Eastern priests “worldly”?
 
This could be a translation problem. This, for example, was translated. Perhaps rigid means or implies something different in Spanish or Iralian than it does in English? The translator should actually know this but sometimes things fall through the cracks.
 
From the Pope’s homily:

“About rigidity and worldliness, it was some time ago that an elderly monsignor of the curia came to me, who works, a normal man, a good man, in love with Jesus – and he told me that he had gone to buy a couple of shirts at Euroclero [the clerical clothing store] and saw a young fellow - he thinks he had not more than 25 years, or a young priest or about to become a priest - before the mirror, with a cape, large, wide, velvet, with a silver chain. He then took the Saturno [wide-brimmed clerical headgear], he put it on and looked himself over. A rigid and worldly one. And that priest – he is wise, that monsignor, very wise - was able to overcome the pain, with a line of healthy humor and added: ‘And it is said that the Church does not allow women priests!’. Thus, does the work that the priest does when he becomes a functionary ends in the ridiculous, always.”

I respectfully disagree with the Holy Father’s remarks here. It seems rather cold of the Pope to judge a young priest as “rigid” and “worldy,” simply because he is browsing/buying clerical clothing. Sure, there is always the risk of becoming worldy and vain, but how can he judge a priest’s character and holiness based on this alone?
 
From the Pope’s homily:

“About rigidity and worldliness, it was some time ago that an elderly monsignor of the curia came to me, who works, a normal man, a good man, in love with Jesus – and he told me that he had gone to buy a couple of shirts at Euroclero [the clerical clothing store] and saw a young fellow - he thinks he had not more than 25 years, or a young priest or about to become a priest - before the mirror, with a cape, large, wide, velvet, with a silver chain. He then took the Saturno [wide-brimmed clerical headgear], he put it on and looked himself over. A rigid and worldly one. And that priest – he is wise, that monsignor, very wise - was able to overcome the pain, with a line of healthy humor and added: ‘And it is said that the Church does not allow women priests!’. Thus, does the work that the priest does when he becomes a functionary ends in the ridiculous, always.”

I respectfully disagree with the Holy Father’s remarks here. It seems rather cold of the Pope to judge a young priest as “rigid” and “worldy,” simply because he is browsing/buying clerical clothing. Sure, there is always the risk of becoming worldy and vain, but how can he judge a priest’s character and holiness based on this alone?
Both Pope Benedict and Pope St. John Paul II were known to wear the saturno as well.
 
I still don’t understand what Pope Francis is trying to get at here 🤷

Is he trying to speak in a certain way to “warn” us about particular ways of acting?
Can someone PLEASE tell us what this “rigidity” is meant to be?

I’ve met many young Priests in my short time as a Catholic. Two I am particularly familiar with are fond of the Church’s traditions - yet fill important roles related to discernment of vocations and youth groups. Both are outgoing and always willing to answer questions I have. Does their fondness of tradition make them “rigid?”

Priests cannot be taught every possible scenario in Seminary - I think it boils down to experience. Perhaps we should give these younger priests a chance to find themselves and grow into strong, holy men before we condemn their outward actions.
Just like the rest of us, who attend college or university. This doesn’t automatically give us real-world experience, which is only developed WORKING in your respective field.

A Priest can be worldly not just because their wear certain clothes or talk in a certain way. They can also be non-traditionalist, dress as a Clergyman should but live in rather well-equipped houses, no?
 
I still don’t understand what Pope Francis is trying to get at here 🤷

A Priest can be worldly not just because their wear certain clothes or talk in a certain way. They can also be non-traditionalist, dress as a Clergyman should but live in rather well-equipped houses, no?
I think the point is not what the young priest wears but his effeminate manner in front of the mirror in selecting his garb.
 
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I think the point is not what the young priest wears but his effeminate manner in front of the mirror in selecting his garb.
True, but it all depends on their interior attitude. If I were paying a reasonable amount of money for clothing, I’d be quite sure to be checking thoroughly of the fit. I agree this can be vain - but looks can be deceiving, as are first impressions.

It can be “in vain,” but let’s not forget the clerical gear worn by those in the Eastern Church…
 
I’m always a little puzzled by Pope Francis’ comments on rigidity. If by rigidity is meant a lack of compassion for persons, I am rather surprised that in my own experience, I can’t recall meeting a priest of the “rigid” kind in any of my parishes.
You’re lucky then. I have met many of these priests and religious. Many, many more laypersons in prominent positions within the church fall into this category.
 
You’re lucky then. I have met many of these priests and religious. Many, many more laypersons in prominent positions within the church fall into this category.
My parents and some teachers were pretty rigid in what they expected of their children and students. But they were also compassionate and loving.
 
I think the point is not what the young priest wears but his effeminate manner in front of the mirror in selecting his garb.
So do I. There is this: “And it is said that the Church does not allow women priests!”
 
My parents and some teachers were pretty rigid in what they expected of their children and students. But they were also compassionate and loving.
Do you use the word " strict"?
I would say some of my teachers were strict but not rigid.
We knew that we would not get around with nonsense,but they would understand when we had real inconveniences.
Also they would normally give us time for the assignments.
We had about 12 annual subjects in Spanish and say 5 annual in English in Junior High and High School
I do not know ,yet strict and rigid are different.
For example,say we had a quiz the day we had 3 finals in Maths,History and another subject. When the Geography teacher said we were having an unexpected quiz, we could, in good faith and honesty ,tell her we had three major tests on that day . And in a most reasonable way,we would agree on having it another day. Sometimes, due to reasonable circumstances,it wasn t possible. Say the term was closing and the teacher needed extra grades . Of course sometimes they would say: "Please take out a sheet of paper " and that was the end of story .

I can say our teachers were strict but rigid…no… not that I can remember. Also loving and compassionate,as you say.
Perhaps I am wrong,but we can have rigid traits too; however, a rigid person has that trait kind of incorporated almost permanently.
If I think of the very few rigid persons I have known, then it was a different story. We could die in the attempt,it was useless. They had already developed a very hard trait. Why? I do not know.
And I am sincerely trying to see how we use it,not referring to how it is used in this particular article nor have anything other in mind than life situations.
 
St Francis writes: “This could be a translation problem. This, for example, was translated. Perhaps rigid means or implies something different in Spanish or Italian than it does in English? The translator should actually know this but sometimes things fall through the cracks.”

From what I can see, the text of the message was printed for distribution. It is quoted in rather comprehensive detail in Gilliam’s posting (the initial posting on this thread). It appears, from internal evidence in the text that Gilliam provides, that the pope’s message was translated from Italian into English. It doesn’t state that the pope spoke in Spanish, but my assumption is that he did and that the text – in Italian – was given to reporters for further dissemination to a wider public. It was, obviously, intended for wider distribution. So Vatican Radio (the original source for the report) translated it from Spanish into Italian, and we see that report translated from Italian into English – three steps of translation.

The problem (as the poster named St Francis so rightly points out) is how the pope’s usage of the term “rigid” or “rigidity” is to be understood. This term has developed into an almost thematic concern in the pope’s recent statements. He uses the terms again and again.

I think that any mistranslation of the intended meaning of something so essential to the pope’s thinking would need to be corrected, and that would be the responsibility of the Vatican’s public relations office (and, ultimately, it would be the pope’s responsibility) to insist on clarity for this expression for people who do not speak Spanish as a first language – otherwise, there is confusion.

The Vatican and the pope can hardly contend that the wider Catholic world is suffering under a misunderstanding if they don’t take the time to clarify meaning. They are professional communicators and this is the 17th year of the 21st century. They are capable of providing lucidity and precision for the pope’s use of the term “rigid.”
 
This could be a translation problem. This, for example, was translated. Perhaps rigid means or implies something different in Spanish or Iralian than it does in English? The translator should actually know this but sometimes things fall through the cracks.
By what I have read from several sources, Pope Francis speaks in Italian while saying Mass in Italy. This of course does not preclude an inexact translation from Italian to English.
 
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