The Church then exalts women, despite the failings over the centuries of human beings who are church-goers.
And the number of children in schools has fallen by the millions since 1973. So, more women can become nuns today if they feel called.
But they’ll keep trying, Ed; they’ll keep trying.
Both men and women can be commissioned as readers today. Only males can be instituted as lectors. I think instituting individuals as lectors and acolytes will remain largely focused on males on their way to the priesthood or permanent diaconate.
Of course. The worship of the god Change demands… well, change, on a regular basis.But they’ll keep trying, Ed; they’ll keep trying.
Those seeking female ordination are always looking for loopholes to grant females greater roles on the altar. The sspx is looking more appealing with every step the feminists make. Luckily, our lord said the gates of hell will not prevail against the catholic church
I agree women are great for the Church but I am not sure why we need to be deaconesses. I would prefer to raise a lot of children to be authentic disciples of Christ and homeschool them so they are taught correctly and are decent and productive members of society. Catholic families are also on the decline it is rare to see large Catholic families nowadays if Catholics have three children it is rare, just a generation ago five children was normal. What was God’s commandment to Adam and Eve, be fruitful and multiply it’s also why during the sacrament of holy matrimony Abraham gets brought up because we are still all of his decedents and the faith continues on through the sacrament of marriage.
So you disagree with the practice, currently occuring in a few conservative dioceses, of permanently instituting (male) lectors who are not on their way to becoming deacons or priests?
Ok. So then how does the idea of a male nun grab you? Just asking.
It’s important to be precise with language. The Church has immutable truths and teachings which can’t be altered.Of course. The worship of the god Change demands… well, change, on a regular basis.
As a great philosopher once said, “If it ain’t broke, there’s nothing to change.”
But, of course, Change also demands lengthy, convoluted and detailed arguments while looking for any vague loophole. Followers of Change are also often followers of the god, Politics. But be careful. Some followers will use the constantly modified term Progressives to confuse the unwary.
Peace,
Ed
Do you really think taking mothers out of the home has been a good thing for our society? Honestly? Most women I know would prefer to be home with their children and taking care of them when they get home from school and provide their families with a happy home. The responsibilities of women in the home didn’t change too much when women started working so they have to work a full day and then still take care of her duties at home. The family has come second and we see what the result is right now.
Again, not all women have children at home. It is quite common for a woman in her 50’s to have grown children out of the house if she has children at all. The point is, each woman has different circumstances, calling and gifts to share.
Indeed, as here:
For accuracy purposes, when the Church speaks of Truth, it is in reference to divine Truth, embodied in the person of Jesus, whose moral law is carried forward by the Church since Christ instituted the same Church. All else is mutable, and not “truth.” And any perceived “changes in the world” may or may not be a good idea for the Church to adopt, depending on how they may (or may not) alter immutable Truth.
I know it’s important to be precise so I’ll be precise: Those who know a little or a lot about Church history, laws, etc., often don’t want the Holy Spirit guiding the Church but follow the wind.
…a point already realized in the variety of circumstances, callings, and gifts available right now (and for several decades prior) to women. No need for more political tokenism and worship of titles.
I agree all women are different but in the US we treat motherhood literally like it is a disease right now and that needs to be changed. Are you a parent? Because the biggest joy of being a parent is that you get grandchildren and if you have a big family right around when your youngest leaves, your grandchildren start coming and staying with you. Affirming children with love from several generations is a huge deal and children are more secure. My grandmother always says it a joy to help your children with their children so you know they have peace of mind that they are in your care. I hated daycare as a kid even though they had more things to do and more kids my age I still didn’t like it, I didn’t mind going to my grandma’s house even though it was just her and I. The fact that daycare even exists just goes to show you how far off track we have become with the family.
That’s not at all what I said. I said nothing about the Church adopting the world’s changes. Lemme repost again:
Changes happen. Otherwise we would not have an opportunity for conversion. Christ calls us to change. The world changes around us. If we deny that change happens in the world we do the same things over and over, which is probably what hell is like. (and no, I am not claiming the Church changes dogma or that God changes).
