I believe the forum rules and their application restrict anything even approaching or resembling disagreement or criticism of clergy or church leaders. I’m sure those rules are there for a reason, but it explains why many don’t comment on this thread.CAF response to Pope speaking on immigration. . . . .
(crickets chirping)
So folks cherry pick Papal statements which the agree with to comment on? Wouldn’t it be more Catholic to give attention to any statement released by the Holy Father?I believe the forum rules and their application restrict anything even approaching or resembling disagreement or criticism of clergy or church leaders. I’m sure those rules are there for a reason, but it explains why many don’t comment on this thread.
Another reason why I love the Holy Father. He keeps the moral compass of the Church straight whether related to abortion, same sex marriage, capital punishment, the environment, and immigration.
Benedict has been the right man at the right time.![]()
I think it’s because people on CAF have gotten so anti-Obama and therefore react so defensively over anything remotely liberal. That’s just my observation.So folks cherry pick Papal statements which the agree with to comment on? Wouldn’t it be more Catholic to give attention to any statement released by the Holy Father?
Maybe this is the “cafeteria” Catholicism decried so often around here.![]()
Immigration reform is not liberal. There are lots of conservatives advocating immigration reform. But immigration reform does not mean amnesty to illegal immigrants.I think it’s because people on CAF have gotten so anti-Obama and therefore react so defensively over anything remotely liberal. That’s just my observation.![]()
I suppose, given that liberals don’t want to do anything at all about immigration…Immigration reform is not liberal. There are lots of conservatives advocating immigration reform. But immigration reform does not mean amnesty to illegal immigrants.
Pope Benedict said previously:
‘At the same time, states have the right to regulate migration flows and to defend their own frontiers, always guaranteeing the respect due to the dignity of each and every human person.’
nytimes.com/2010/10/27/world/europe/27pope.html
I also “laud” (applaud) the concept of immigration reform. Having studied the issue for quite awhile and dealing with it much more intimately than many do who have made proposals, I find that current proposals leave a lot to be desired when it comes to justice and charity and effectiveness. People are allowed to disagree with specifics of proposals, without violating social justice.
I favor more generous aspects in some regards, more restrictive (or more delineated) in other regards, for some practical reasons affecting the very economy and the very social services that in turn are designed to benefit immigrants.
There is not only one way to reform immigration law and immigration reality. I favor a different version of the Dream Act (for example) than the poorly thought-out one being proposed.
Etc.
It’s important not to stereotype and condemn those with constructive ideas.
Marco Rubio is reinventing the DREAM Act. It would give residency, they can go to university but not citizenship. Democrat Rep. Luis Gutiérrez said he would back it:I also “laud” (applaud) the concept of immigration reform. Having studied the issue for quite awhile and dealing with it much more intimately than many do who have made proposals, I find that current proposals leave a lot to be desired when it comes to justice and charity and effectiveness. People are allowed to disagree with specifics of proposals, without violating social justice.
I favor more generous aspects in some regards, more restrictive (or more delineated) in other regards, for some practical reasons affecting the very economy and the very social services that in turn are designed to benefit immigrants.
There is not only one way to reform immigration law and immigration reality. I favor a different version of the Dream Act (for example) than the poorly thought-out one being proposed.
Etc.
It’s important not to stereotype and condemn those with constructive ideas.
I’ll read the specifics later. (Mass now.Marco Rubio is reinventing the DREAM Act. It would give residency, they can go to university but not lead to citizenship. Democrat Rep. Luis Gutiérrez said he would back it:
latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/05/18/rep-luis-gutierrez-says-would-support-gop-version-dream-act