Pope says yoga courses have no answers

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Here, we sometimes pray for peace, and meanwhile are sarcastic to believers and non-believers.
 
On occasion, I’ve seen people doing the verbal equivalent of punching each other. Generally, that ends with it erupting into a full argument, the thread needing to be closed down, because we don´t know how to disagree while still remain civil.
 
johnnyc176 said:
I’m going to exercise class.

It could also be a good way to share the Faith…

‘I’m going to exercise class’
But I thought it was a yoga class?
‘Not for me it ain’t’ 🙂
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Seriously, it’s just a word. My mother is encouraged to do yoga for her fibromyalgia. Doc doesn’t want her opening her mind to what the heck ever. He wants her to do the yoga exercising. Most people understand this.
 
ClearWater said:
This is one thing I have never liked about this forum is the constant sarcasm.
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Hello,

Believe me, I purposefully avoided sarcasm in my response and I assure you that there is none in that post.

Dan
 
bisco said:
my wife enjoys it, and she said they do it on ewtn. no fuss, as long as your not participating in the mystical stuff at the beginning of class.
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There is no yoga on EWTN.

I believe YOGA is spiritually dangerous, and I’m glad the Pope thinks so, too.

My 2 denarii. 🙂

These physical positions have underlying “spiritual” meanings.

I’m not sure the church condemns it in any particular way, however.
 
Although, it’s hard to hear tone on a post, it came across that way to me…one of those sarcastic, hellos.

Sort of like saying, “duh”.
 
If we’d decrease the sarcasm on the forum, I believe our communications would improve 100%. We’d have more peace on earth.
 
For those of you that have mentioned EWTN…is this what you are seeing on there?

pietrafitness.com/p-f-not-yoga/

I have these DVDs and they’re wonderful. You get the benefit of stretching and exercise, along with Catholic prayers and soft Gregorian chants in the background.
 
ClearWater said:
What about starting with “Hello…”

That, to me, is sarcasm.
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I start all my posts with “Hello”, in particular if my response is the first communication I have had with the other person. For follow-ups, like this, I don’t always repeat “hello” since the conversation has already begun. That’s just the way I try to conduct myself here.

Dan
 
catholicmamajoy said:
For those of you that have mentioned EWTN…is this what you are seeing on there?

pietrafitness.com/p-f-not-yoga/

I have these DVDs and they’re wonderful. You get the benefit of stretching and exercise, along with Catholic prayers and soft Gregorian chants in the background.
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According to the FAQ Pietra Fitness does not include a variety of things:
Q. How is Pietra Fitness different than yoga?
A. Though some of the physical exercises are similar, the practices of Pietra Fitness and other holistic (mind/body/soul) wellness programs are fundamentally different. There are specific practices that our workouts will never incorporate:

· Seeking immersion into the divine and becoming identified with the divine
· Emptying the mind or seeking altered states of consciousness
· Manipulating energy or doing chakra work
· Using Sanskrit or chanting
· Practicing postures that are explicitly religious in content (e.g. the lotus pose with “OM” fingers)
· Practicing postures that are unnatural and potentially dangerous (e.g. odd twisting pretzels/contortions)
· Practicing unnatural breathing techniques

Our format includes important elements of Christian prayer, such as: praise, thanksgiving, petition, and seeking God’s mercy. Further, our physical exercises are drawn from many sources and can be seen in a variety of other fitness activities from track to Pilates, dance, and more.
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pietrafitness.com/f-a-q-s/
 
ClearWater said:
What about starting with “Hello…”

That, to me, is sarcasm.
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That poster starts all of his posts here with "Hello. ". I sympathize if you have gotten your guard up due to what some other posters have said, but going after polite posters only adds to the negativity. 😦
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Seriously, it’s just a word.
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Words matter.

From the link posted previously…
Pietra Fitness is not “Christian yoga” or ‘Catholic Yoga” and should never be described as such because the term ‘yoga’ describes an integrated whole of philosophies, spirituality, and physical practices based in Hinduism and found in Buddhism and New Age practices
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I get that you don’t think of yoga as what the dictionary says it is. I’m just thinking of the other guy who does.
 
johnnyc176 said:
Words matter.

From the link posted previously…
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Have you ever been to a yoga class? There’s one at the MWR on base. I stretch and breathe. That’s it. Are there some classes out there that get into the whole zen, Buddha, whatever. Sure. I’ve never experienced that and the only time I hear about it is here from people behind a computer screen.
Again, no I don’t think you get anything spiritually out of yoga class, just like you don’t get anything spiritually out of spin class. OK?
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Have you ever been to a yoga class? There’s one at the MWR on base. I stretch and breathe. That’s it. Are there some classes out there that get into the whole zen, Buddha, whatever. Sure. I’ve never experienced that and the only time I hear about it is here from people behind a computer screen.
Again, no I don’t think you get anything spiritually out of yoga class, just like you don’t get anything spiritually out of spin class. OK?
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That’s your belief (and mine), which is good, but not universal. Here in Cali, there is a demand for more authentic, real yoga, as people are more experimental with spirituality. IMO it’d be helpful if we just called the stretching portion, stretching, and let yoga be yoga.
 
bisco said:
please don’t try to lead people into sin by telling them that yoga (not the exercise part) is good for them.
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No one is saying that yoga should be a substitute for begin Catholic. I don’t know why some people always choose to distort this conversation and the intentions of those who do yoga for obvious health and well being benefits.
 
What do you make of this from National Catholic Register, apparently about the same homily from Pope Francis:

Catechism, yoga, Zen cannot open people’s hearts to God, pope says

ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/catechism-yoga-zen-cannot-open-peoples-hearts-god-pope-says

“Courses in yoga, Zen meditation, **even extensive studies in church teaching and spirituality ** can never free people enough to open their hearts to God and His love, Pope Francis said in a morning homily.”

If you see this homily as a condemnation of yoga and Zen, should we also conclude the Holy Father is condemning studying the Catechism and tenets of the Faith? Of course not!! It seems to me he is only saying that studying alone will not open our hearts to God’s love. I would like to see a full translation of this homily.
 
johnnyc176 said:
Because the op said 99% of the people that they know do yoga for exercise. That’s not yoga, that’s exercise.
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It’s the yoga exercises that we are doing. Hence, we call it what it is – yoga.

Not going to lie and call it something else just because some people go off the deep end about it.
 
ClearWater said:
I used to think the Catholic Church held a monopoly on truth. Now, I no longer think so.
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This is a bit off-topic, but I just wanted to respond to your point here.

Catholicism contains the fullness of the truth; all of revealed truth and the protection of the Holy Spirit.

This does not mean there is no truth whatsoever anywhere else 🙂 (not sarcastic) Natural knowledge, of course, can be found in many places, and even elements of revealed knowledge, which have been learned through Judaism or Catholicism.

So, yes, the Church has more of the truth than any other person, religion, or group, but does not and can not have a monopoly on all truth.
 
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