Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion

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Adonis33 said:
As oppossed to deliberatley dissobeying the Pope? You think that is better?
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Any “Catholic” pro-abortion politician who wishes to change his stance to pro-life can consult me and have no worries. We will simply make a visit to an abortion clinic, so he can “see what it’s all about.”

At some point he will visit the restroom, I will slip him the flask of vegetable soup I have concealed under my jacket, he will take a huge mouthfull – and stagger out and spew it all in front of the cameras, saying, “Hack! Gag! I never had any idea it was like this! Gag! Puke!”😃
 
**VIVA IL PAPA!!! VIVE CHRISTUS REX!!!

**Hopefully the U.S. bishops will take the pope’s message to heart. The public scandal has gone on long enough!

Perhaps excommunicating the pro-abortion “Catholic” politicians may be too much for some bishops. Fine. But at least they could restrain themselves from GIVING COMMUNION TO PRO-ABORTION POLITICIANS PUBLICLY or GIVING THEM AWARDS!!! I mean, COME ON!!! Enough is enough already!

And as to any law legalizing abortion: ** MALA LEX, NULLA LEX!**
 
St_Violet said:
is it just me or isn’t our presidental choices just getting worse and worse.

did John Kerry get excommunitcated on the 2004 campaign, he to is a catholic and support abortion, just curious
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If my memory serves me correctly:shrug: the Bishop of John Kerry’s Diocese said publicly that no politician that stands for abortion is allowed to receive communion…however, the parish that he attends, or attended did end up giving him communion.:mad: John Kerry skirted the issue by saying he personally does not believe in abortion but he has no right to step on the toes of those that do.:rolleyes: Thus, “freedom of choice”. I don’t think the Bishop formally excommunicated him, but like said in other posts, he did this to himself.
 
bones_IV said:
I rely on God to end abortions not political parties. I endorse neither the republican or the democrat parties. I wonder if politics were invented for morality in the first place.
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God allows each of us to make choices, free will. If we do nothing about abortion but allow God to take care of it…are we acting as Christ taught us?
 
I think it is wonderful the Holy Father is warning Catholic politicians and I hope the American Bishops come out aggressively against them.

I hope to hear at Mass it is against our beliefs to support politicians who support abortion and gay marriage and as good Catholics we should not vote for them
 
dmelosi said:
God allows each of us to make choices, free will. If we do nothing about abortion but allow God to take care of it…are we acting as Christ taught us?
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Of course. After all, didn't Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about teaching His word, but allow God to take care of it?
Didn’t Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about caring for the poor, but allow God to take care of it?

Didn’t Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about admonishing sinners, but allow God to take care of it?
 
vern_humphrey said:
Of course. After all, didn't Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about teaching His word, but allow God to take care of it?
Didn’t Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about caring for the poor, but allow God to take care of it?

Didn’t Christ tell the Apostles to do nothing about admonishing sinners, but allow God to take care of it?
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Just wanted to make sure you knew this was my response to anothers post who said she allows God to end abortion, and doesnt rely on either political party.
 
bones_IV said:
I rely on God to end abortions not political parties. I endorse neither the republican or the democrat parties. I wonder if politics were invented for morality in the first place.
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God expects us to help build His kingdom. It is not because He needs our help, rather it is for our own good. Relying on God to end abortions will simply lead to a chastisement that none of us want to experience…imo.
 
GreenJeans said:
The opposition would show a time line. First they would show the politician vote in favor of abortion. Then they would show the popes directive. Then they would show the guy voting as the pope says. Then they would say the guy takes orders from the pope.

They don’t have to prove anything. All they have to do is get the vote.
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I think the politicians would be more careful. They would simply cease showing-up for votes for 3-6 months, make sure there is no close timing to the Pope’s statement, then craft a clever way to start visiting clinics or speaking to women who have had abortions, and begin releasing short statements that he feels troubled about the death of the innocent unborns, then one day–bam, he goes total prof-life. His opponent can try to pin the Pope stuff on him, but it won’t directly tie.
 
GreenJeans said:
I leave the choice to the politician. I am only concerned with the effects on electoral politics.
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Without doubt some politicians would lose their next race because they would no longer represent the democratic platform. However, some would be able to change the seat to republican or independent and win over many conservative votes.
 
I see folks on here are leaving it up to God to end abortion. I think the Holy Father is saying abortion is against Gods teachings and it is time all followers of Christ help God out.
 
bones_IV said:
I rely on God to end abortions not political parties. I endorse neither the republican or the democrat parties. I wonder if politics were invented for morality in the first place.
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And God relies on us to do what is right.
 
Tom317 said:
I think the politicians would be more careful. They would simply cease showing-up for votes for 3-6 months, make sure there is no close timing to the Pope’s statement, then craft a clever way to start visiting clinics or speaking to women who have had abortions, and begin releasing short statements that he feels troubled about the death of the innocent unborns, then one day–bam, he goes total prof-life. His opponent can try to pin the Pope stuff on him, but it won’t directly tie.
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Sure they would. And the opposition would work just as hard to schedule comprimising votes. It’s not one-sided in either direction. Since each district is different, the dynamics will be different in each. But the demonstration that a guy takes his cue form a foreign power is itself very powerful.

If they stopped showing up for votes for 6 months after the pope’s directive, do you think that would go unremarked upon by the opposition? I don’t think they would roll over an play dead, but can’t see how it is anything but a negative.
 
dmelosi said:
Just wanted to make sure you knew this was my response to anothers post who said she allows God to end abortion, and doesnt rely on either political party.
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I understand, and I was underscoring your point – for the benefit of the “We don’t have to do anything” crowd.
 
In support of the Pope I challenge everyone here to e-mail their elected representitives and tell them as a Catholic I can not vote for them if they support abortion. That should not be too hard. 40 millions deaths in this country is too many to do nothing
 
GreenJeans said:
Sure they would. And the opposition would work just as hard to schedule comprimising votes. It’s not one-sided in either direction. Since each district is different, the dynamics will be different in each. But the demonstration that a guy takes his cue form a foreign power is itself very powerful.
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Let’s get one thing straight – the Catholic Church is not a “foreign power.”
GreenJeans said:
If they stopped showing up for votes for 6 months after the pope’s directive, do you think that would go unremarked upon by the opposition? I don’t think they would roll over an play dead, but can’t see how it is anything but a negative.
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Who cares?
 
GreenJeans said:
Sure they would. And the opposition would work just as hard to schedule comprimising votes. It’s not one-sided in either direction. Since each district is different, the dynamics will be different in each. But the demonstration that a guy takes his cue form a foreign power is itself very powerful.

If they stopped showing up for votes for 6 months after the pope’s directive, do you think that would go unremarked upon by the opposition? I don’t think they would roll over an play dead, but can’t see how it is anything but a negative.
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As I said in one of my other responses, some would take a hit, others might very well prosper under a different political party. Either way, no-one would be able to absolutely pin the Pope’s statement on any smart politician because those people would never own-up to it…it would all be charges and denials, charges and denials. In fact, I could see the dems attacking a polilitician and then that politician using that attack to gerner sympathy…“I just changed my mind and now I am being blasted with all this false Pope stuff…people hate us Catholics.”
 
The problem is that the faith has reached a place where a great many of the so-called faithful simply do not believe what the Church formally teaches. They do not believe confession is the only normal means of receiving forgiveness, they do not believe (70%+) that the Eucharist is truly Christ and that partaking of Jesus unworthily does eternal damage to our souls, on-and-on.

Faith has been lost for at least 70% of Catholics (including nthe politcians we are discussing), so they don’t listen to any of our leaders, unless of course the leader agrees with them.
 
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