You have not been around here for long, have you?Excuse me, but no one from what I’ve seen has ever suggested that those who struggle with that are “less than.” You don’t know our experiences, our lives, or anything about us. What a ridiculous and arrogant accusation.
OK, well if someone says what I’ve said at least, would that constitute as gay-bashing to you or is that simply something you disagree with but not the same as gay-bashing? Your comment followed our heads bumping.You have not been around here for long, have you?
And I was replying to @AndrewAxland and his comments.
If you don’t thing that homophobia and “gay bashing” don’t happen here, you really need to take your blinders off.
Fair enough. I also agree there there is uncharitable/unChristian behavior in regards to those who deal with same-sex attraction. However, we may disagree with who’s behaving that way.I did not accuse you of anything, and I don’t think that there is any “bashing” going on in this thread. Yet, anyway.
What I do agree with is that topics about the LGBTQ population on this forum seem to bring out a lot of unchaitable, un Christian behavior.
I agree with this. I don’t think anyone who is committed to a chaste life, in line with Church teaching, and doesn’t struggle with his sexual attractions/identity should be denied.It’s a very fine line to walk because many LGBT people would call actual Church teaching homophobic. Fortunately, I was already Catholic when I realized I was bi, so I made the conscious choice to live up to my oath. I would have zero issue with a similar man being ordained.
Do you feel the same way about women who have homosexual inclinations who want to join a convent?However, I do believe that chaste, committed Catholic, who experience same sex attraction do run the risk of falling in love with a fellow priest, which would be bad if they live together in the same rectory, friary, monastery, etc.
If they have deep seated attraction, yes. However, that’s obviously up to the convent / religious order.Do you feel the same way about women who have homosexual inclinations who want to join a convent?
I think it because there is a difference been parish priests and religious (male or female) who do not celebrate public masses.So, we just don’t talk about it?
Or is it because that, in my experience, most men do not have the issues with gay women as they do with gay men?
There is a huge double standard at play when we only talk about gay men and their place in the Church and let all sorts of other behaviors get swept under the rug. Homophobia, much to Carinal Muellers chagrin, is alive and well in the world and the Church.
Indeed – though this isn’t doubting the Church, rather concerns with those in the Church doubting her. While the authority in the Church is imperfect as people are imperfect, this isn’t to suggest that the magisterium Herself is imperfect, because the Word of God isn’t.It often takes the words of church authorities for me to believe criticisms about the church. I just see that the church was founded by Jesus- who’s perfect. Maybe it’s a thing with me, but doubting the church is like doubting Jesus.
Amen. I couldn’t care less if a priest is straight, bi, or gay as long as he is staying celibate.No man who cannot control his sexual inclinations should become a priest.
It matters not who one is attracted to, it matters how those attractions are dealt with.
They are not particularly “healthy” for a man making a lifelong commitment to celibacy.Big difference between “strong heterosexual inclinations” which are normal and healthy
Well you should ask them because when one compares these other problems with their SSA. They tend to get very touchy about the fact that they are not the same at all.How is it any more of a liability than a man who has a drinking and/or drug problem, or a heterosexual man who does not have a mastery of his sexual urges.