Pray for Abdul Rahmen

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freedomm:

Your media’s job is to keep the ignorants of the West in dark about Islam, as much as possible.

That’s pretty much the scope of all your arguments, isn’t it? … It’s always someone else’s fault: Blame the West, blame the media, blame the Jooooos…!!

 

[freedomm]

Semper Fi:

Calling someone “abnormal” for converting to Christianity on a Christian forum is highly insulting.

Dear Semper Fi:

If Abdul Rahmen was not abnormal, he would have thought twice before converting to “Christianity” and before going against the Will of God of Jesus. Because even natural kinship with Jesus counts for nothing; only one who does the will of Jesus’ heavenly Father belongs to his true family. And ofcourse Jesus’ heavenly Father is Father of every Tom, Dick and Harry. and ofcourse the Will of God was not fully conveyed by Jesus in it’s entirety because his nation (jewish) were not fit to recieve the whole truth. As such Jesus Christ left the job of conveying the whole truth to an another Paraclete, an another Spirit of Truth.

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[freedomm]

Semper Fi:

self-proclaimed Prophet Muhammad who had some 20+ wives and sex with a nine year old girl.

Dear Semper Fi:

You cannot insinuate me or any other sincere truth seeker with your above false statement. No sincere person buys your false statement/view. The subject of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH)'s marraiges has been dealt and answered zillion times. Just surf the web for Muslims sites, if you are really interested to know the Muslim answer.

 

[freedomm]

Semper Fi:

Sorry. Our media is not Christian, it is secular.

Oh really? Since when?

 

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freedomm:

Oh really? Since when?

LOL you really think the West has a Christian media? Why do you keep expecting anybody on here to take you seriously?

 

[freedomm]

exoflare:

LOL you really think the West has a Christian media? Why do you keep expecting anybody on here to take you seriously?

Why do you think the West’s media is not Christian? Since when it losts it’s Christianity?

From where do you get all of your news to blame others, especially to blame Muslims/Islam?

 

[exoflare]

freedomm:

Why do you think the West’s media is not Christian? Since when it losts it’s Christianity?

From where do you get all of your news to blame others, especially to blame Muslims/Islam?

Because “the news” isn’t a religious organization! Why can’t Muslims understand that there are other reasons for starting an organization besides spouting religious propaganda?

 

[pira114]

Let’s just get it out in the open. muslims are evil people who will use any excuse to kill a Christian.

There. That simple. Someday, they’ll be judged. Then they can spout their lies and see how far it gets them.

 

[freedomm]

pira114:

Let’s just get it out in the open. muslims are evil people who will use any excuse to kill a Christian.

There. That simple. Someday, they’ll be judged. Then they can spout their lies and see how far it gets them.

Here is a true example:

**When the Roman Empire became Christian, apostates were punished by deprivation of all civil rights. They could not give evidence in a court of law, and could neither bequeath nor inherit property. To induce anyone to apostatize was an offence punishable with death.**Theodosian Code, XVI, title 7, De apostatis; title 8, De Judæis; “Corpus juris romani ante-Justinianæi” (Bonn, 1840), 1521 - 1607; Code of Justinian I, title 7, De apostatis l. c. 60, 61].

Catholic Encyclopedia
newadvent.org/cathen/01624b.htm

 

[freedomm]

pira114:

Let’s just get it out in the open. muslims are evil people who will use any excuse to kill a Christian.

Dear pira114:

The example of actual evil people as follows:

One mad Catholic Christian Adolf Hitler alone had killed 6 million choosen people of God simply because in his eyes they were the killers of your supposed Saviour. Are you a denier of Holocaust, otherwise?

And more than 40 million people have died because of this same Catholic Christain Adolf Hitler, according to renowned Historian.

Then you have Mussoulini.

Then you have Serbs Christian butchers.

Then what your holy Papacy did with innocent choosen people of God, you should ask them (Jews) and they will show you the mirror.

Then the only country that has the “honor” to produce first and use Atomic Bomb was Christian America. Countless innocent Japanese babies, children, men and women died within seconds.

Then what happened in Vietnam, ask the remains of Vietnam war.

Then West has a history of supporting dictators and tyrants in the middle east/muslim countries.

Then recently more than 100,000 innocent Iraq Muslims babies, men, children, women have already dead.

Then what happened in Abu Ghuraib jail is not too different than what many priests did and do to the Christian children in their churches/outside churches. There are Christian priests who are gays.

The US press has praised the Vatican and US Catholic leaders for directly addressing the wave of sex scandals that have rocked the Church in the United States.
But there is a widespread opinion that the Church did not go far enough and that key Catholic leaders in the US, including Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, should resign.

Several papers, and many Catholics quoted on their pages, express dissatisfaction with the steps taken after US cardinals met the the Pope in Rome.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1951968.stm ]

Then you have naturists in Christian America and hopefully in Europe too.

Then all dirty films, movies, videos initially originate from civilised Christian Europe or civilised Christian America. These civilised countries are the pioneers in this field to spread various kinds of dirt and filth all over the world with their sophisticated technology. And the amazing thing is even your Rome is not saved from this filth. I am told recently that around your Vatican all these filth and live sex is available

No wonder, if Jesus comes back, and when many of you approach him by calling “Lord, Lord…”, he will tell you “Depart from me, I never knew you” Why? Because you are anything but not his sheep.​

Read details:

Suing the Pope
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/1879407.stm

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[freedomm]

Dear pira114:

As far getting rid of evil, you can’t even get rid of all kinds of FILTH and DIRT that is around your very Pope’s small country-Vatican in Rome, let alone other “evils” that are in your mind you wnat to get rid of.

From sex videos, films to live sex is available just couple of miles away from Pope’s office and the funny thing is you cannot even get rid of all those Catholics priests who molest their own church members’ young boys:

Patrick Jackman will never leave his children alone with a catholic priest

"He [Catholic Father Sean Fortune] would pick me up and be the priest in front of my mother and my family and five minutes later in the car he would make me perform oral sex on him." ------Colm O’Gorman
Details:
Suing the Pope
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programm…ent/1879407.stm

The US press has praised the Vatican and US Catholic leaders for directly addressing the wave of sex scandals that have rocked the Church in the United States.
But there is a widespread opinion that the Church did not go far enough and that key Catholic leaders in the US, including Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, should resign.

Several papers, and many Catholics quoted on their pages, express dissatisfaction with the steps taken after US cardinals met the the Pope in Rome.
Details:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1951968.stm ]

The Catholic Church did not tell the locals that Fr Fortune was a brutal, predatory paedophile. They organised delegations to two Bishops - wrote to the Papal Nuncio and the Vatican. The church promised it would do something. It never did.
Details:
Suing the Pope
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/1879407.stm ]

And not to mention gays in your very Rome:

Pope John Paul has delivered a powerful condemnation of the gay rights march held in Rome on Saturday, describing it as an offence to Christian values

See? How helpless was your Pope? He could not evn get rid of Catholic/Christian Gay Italians and you are jumping toooo high and want to get rid of other non-Chrisrtian “evils”

Is there any more evil than the evils your Christian Europe and America has?
You better keep your young boys and girls away from your Catholic priests, first and listen what Patrick Jackman said. He said he"will never leave his children alone with a catholic priest"
Details:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programm…ent/1879407.stm
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[Semper_Fi_1]

freedomm:

Oh really? Since when?

Since it is your claim, it is you that is going to have to demonstrate that our media has ever been Christian. When has it ever been “Christian”? FOX News & CNN, Christian? ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC, “Christian”? America is not a theocracy like most Muslim countries, and our media is not ran by our government

 

[freedomm]

Semper Fi:

Since it is your claim, it is you that is going to have to demonstrate that our media has ever been Christian. When has it ever been “Christian”? FOX News & CNN, Christian? ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC, “Christian”? America is not a theocracy like most Muslim countries, and our media is not ran by our government

Are you telling me that your Western media is run by Arab Muslims?

From where do you get your news?

 

[murtad]

freedomm:

Did you pray for all those Iraqis of Abu Ghuraib jail when they were under Christian civilised Lady England and her Chrisitain civilised partners?

Why should we pray for Islamist terrorists detained in the Abu Ghuraib jail for plotting to murder Christians and Jews alike? You must learn to accept as fated whatever punishment your fellow terrorists received in jail was wrath from God.

freedomm:

Do you pray for the Gitmo Muslim prisoners who are still held without any proof or case of their “crimes”.

Was it not the Islamic Caliphate that caused World War 1? This is why Christian armies had to fight it and abolished it in 1924. We do not want the Islamic Pope to come back as his 1000 years of war crimes is enough. Al-Qaeda and its primary aim is to revive this Caliphate, which we will never allow. I do pray that Christian evangelism be successful making Muslims convert to the Christian faith and be baptised into the Catholic Church.

freedomm:

Did you pray for more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi Muslim babies, children, men and women who are already dead by the most sophisticated bombs such as Daisy Cutter when dropped blindly on them by the Christian Western Civilised coalition forces, thousands of feet above the ground?

How do you know those 100,000 Muslim babies, children, men and women are innocent? Catholic Church teaches that every non-Christian carries with him the guilt for the murder of Lord Jesus.

freedomm:

Did you pray for those thousands of innocent Afghan villagers who died due to the cluster bombs dropped blindly by your Christian civilised coalition forces on them. What crime these innocent Afghanis committed who had nothing to do with what happened in America?

Read above, Sir. I do not pray for Islamist terrorists, especially Ishmaelites (ie. Arabs) who murdered my Lord Jesus according to St Paul, a Hebrew of the Hebrews, of the Israeli tribe of Benjamin.

 

[Semper_Fi_1]

freedomm:

Dear Semper Fi:

You cannot insinuate me or any other sincere truth seeker with your above false statement. No sincere person buys your false statement/view. The subject of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH)'s marraiges has been dealt and answered zillion times. Just surf the web for Muslims sites, if you are really interested to know the Muslim answer.

My statements are not false. It is a fact, that in Islam a man is able to have 4 wives, but for some reason, Muhammad was able to have as many as he wanted. I guess you don’t remember Muhammad’s favorite wife Aisha? She married Muhammad when she was 6!!! and the marriage was consummated (Muhammad & Aisha had sexual intercourse) when she was 9.

 

[freedomm]

My statements are not false…

You mean when holy Judah (the father of Jewish race) went to Gaza and had sex with his own daughter in law-Tamar, she did not gave birth to two illegitimate babies **Perez and Zerah ** who are great great great grand fathers of your version of Jesus, according to the geneology given by your gospel’s unknown author?

And are you telling me that a bastard can enter in to congregation of God even upto his tenth generations? (Note: The word ‘bastard’ is a Biblical word, not mine!)

 

[freedomm]

murtad:

How do you know those 100,000 Muslim babies, children, men and women are innocent? Catholic Church teaches that every non-Christian carries with him the guilt for the murder of Lord Jesus.

hey murtad:

You mean if you was born to a Buddhist family in a manner how holy Judah, the father of Jewish race, had sex with his own daughter-in-law, Tamar, then you too indeed had carried the guilt for the murder of supposed Lord Jesus of Catholic Father Sean Fortune?

To know who Judah and Tamar were go to Genesis (old Testament)
To know who Perez and Zerah were go to the geneology of your version of Jesus, the Lord of Catholic Father Sean Fortune.
To know who Catholic Father Sean Fortune is, who is still alive, ask Colm O’Gorman or go to the BBC, UK ,and read the following:

Patrick Jackman will never leave his children alone with a catholic priest

“He [Catholic Father Sean Fortune] would pick me up and be the priest in front of my mother and my family and five minutes later in the car he would make me perform oral sex on him.” ------Colm O’Gorman
Details:
Suing the Pope
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programm…ent/1879407.stm​

 

[Semper_Fi_1]

freedomm:

You mean when holy Judah (the father of Jewish race) went to Gaza and had sex with his own daughter in law-Tamar, she did not gave birth to two illegitimate babies **Perez and Zerah **who are great great great grand fathers of your version of Jesus, according to the geneology given by your gospel’s unknown author?

And are you telling me that a bastard can enter in to congregation of God even upto his tenth generations? (Note: The word ‘bastard’ is a Biblical word, not mine!)

I am getting really tired of discussing anything with you, because you keep changing the discussion. We were talking about Muhammad. When we talk about Mr Abdul Rahmen (whom you called “abnormal” simply for seeing through the farce of Islam), you bring up the Holy Roman Empire. The fact remains, your “Prophet” had sex with a child and you called my statements false. The fact remains, your “Prophet” had 20+ wives when other Muslims are only “allowed” four. It seems to me that your God is more preoccupied with sex than Jesus Christ. Sex in Heaven? WHY? Being in God’s presence is what Heaven is for a Christian. Jesus Christ was celibate and did not have a wife. You call me a liar and then you change the subject because you know these are indefensible actions and no person in their right mind would defend someone who had sex with someone whom was nine years old, and God would not have chosen that person to be mankind’s Prophet. By the way, we are in the New Testament. The Old Testament was written to a specific group of nomadic peoples: the Jews. That law was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

Oh, and nice try, we do know the authors of our Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (people who personally new Jesus unlike Muhammad). What we don’t know is what was contained in the Qur’an before Uthman destroyed all variants. We can reconstruct 99% of the New Testament from the writings of the Church Fathers.

 

[Semper_Fi_1]

freedomm:

hey murtad:

You mean if you was born to a Buddhist family in a manner how holy Judah, the father of Jewish race, had sex with his own daughter-in-law, Tamar, then you too indeed had carried the guilt for the murder of supposed Lord Jesus of Catholic Father Sean Fortune?

To know who Judah and Tamar were go to Genesis (old Testament)
To know who Perez and Zerah were go to the geneology of your version of Jesus, the Lord of Catholic Father Sean Fortune.
To know who Catholic Father Sean Fortune is, who is still alive, ask Colm O’Gorman or go to the BBC, UK ,and read the following:

Patrick Jackman will never leave his children alone with a catholic priest

“He [Catholic Father Sean Fortune] would pick me up and be the priest in front of my mother and my family and five minutes later in the car he would make me perform oral sex on him.” ------Colm O’Gorman
Details:
Suing the Pope
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programm…ent/1879407.stm
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This is ridiculous. You know the Church condemns these perverts.

news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-10,GGLG:en&q=Muslim+Child%2Dabuse+Britain

Islam does not have its hands clean either.

 

[murtad]

freedomm:

Are you telling me that your Western media is run by Arab Muslims?

No. Rather, it should be clear to anyone with a brain that the Western media is run by Edom (Atheists, Agnostics, Free Thinkers or polytheists) and not Israel (Christians).

freedomm:

From where do you get your news?

From the Church of course