Of course it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. But I don’t believe my words are disheartening either. Why is prayer considered some kind of bonus for God’s benefit? Or even, purely for your own benefit?
I never said those words or even IMPLIED them. I SAID I pray at all times and I truly DO. I am the music director at a mission here in the wilds of Catholic-hating Oregon. I have hymns running through my mind pretty much ALL the time. On top of that I pray the LOTH, go to daily mass, and pray the rosary sometimes up to 5x/day. This is not to show my piousness. God knows I AM human, it is just to say that we are all called to, or in my case driven to certain levels of prayer-life.
You seem to have no concept of the burdens some of us bear. Truly. On top of my plethora of Church duties, I have two toddlers and a baby AND I am a care-giver to my mom, (my dad having passed only a year ago); not to mention, I am a devoted and loving wife as well. If I fall asleep when I say my final rosary of the evening with my family: (that’s right we all say it together): 1. I KNOW that they finish it for me and 2. WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS? Truly; that IS between me and God.
Whether you choose to think so or not, your callous, apathetic words ARE not *ONLY *disheartening, they are cruel and malicious. It is **wonderful **that you are able to feel fulfilled in your walk with God and I **get **that you desire others to find such completeness, but it is not your place to judge where people are in their walks with God. It IS a magic formula you are prescribing. You can not say that 53 Ave Marias and 6 Pater Nosters are any more or less valid than one simple prayer said with the right heart, or one period of time spent meditating on holy scripture, or simply telling God:
“I love You, O my God,
and my only desire is to love You
until the last breath of my life.
I love You, O my infinitely lovable God,
and I would rather die loving You,
than live without loving You.
I love You, Lord
and the only grace I ask is to love You eternally…
My God, if my tongue cannot say in every moment that I love You,
I want my heart to repeat it to You as often as I draw breath.”
(Thank you St. John Vianney)
Prayer is serious. Imagine you were right in front of Jesus and Mary having a conversation with them - you would fight every urge to sleep, until you have finished talking to them in person.
Don’t you see that this is an amazing GRACE that has been bestowed upon you to be able to do this? It is not something that we remotely have the ability to do out of thin air. For if it is not claimed through grace then it IS just as the atheists say: empty imaginings. Yes we need to make room in our hearts for God to fill but it is UP to GOD how that space is to be filled and how that manifestation is to take place through our outward devotions. GOD, not NewsTheMan. **You ***know *this, of course. I sense your sincerity. What you seem to be blind to is that your good intentions are being used against you.
I don’t think the traffic example follows. Those who fall asleep at the wheel do so because they refuse to acknowledge they are tired - its entirely irresponsible and should be condemned. … Prayer is different though. As for what Paul tells us to do, look I agree but don’t take the scripture out of context. This is the Rosary, a devotional prayer that you always have the intention of finishing.
Says who? Just YOU as far as I can see. Again, what business is it of yours if I choose to meditate only on the scourging, or the calling of the kingdom, or the Eucharist in my night’s prayer? Do you even know that the rosary was originally designed to represent the Psalms because the illiterate Brothers couldn’t memorize them? Be wary of “vain repitition”.
… But I do believe that once we start giving excuses for ourselves they are too easy to follow. It’s like. Imagine you get a new job. And you say, from day one, “well… its cool if I get fired, I’m only human”. How well are you going to do that job? No! You should say “This is my job, I chose it, I am prepared to do it well, because that is what I am called to do”.
Again, that is fantastic for you, thank you for setting a fine example, BUT You ASSUME too much.
Of course its not about 50 Hail Mary’s and a numbers game. It’s about your soul and the discipline. It’s about a conversation with God. It’s about respect to God. It’s about finishing what you start. God gives us grace as a gift, but how much can we accept when our minds are wandering because “I’m only human”?
We can accept as much as we can accept. God is patient and kind. Hopefully we can grow less distracted and closer to God in our devotions as we continue them, but falling asleep is in no way a sign of lack of attention or respect. It is the blessed rest that comes after a LONG HARD DAY. It is God’s gift for our labors, not a turning away from Him in any way.
I think that its best to start the rosary and finish it, reasonable events aside. And sleeping I don’t think is one of them!
I agree it is ideal to say a complete rosary when possible, but you ARE being completely ignorant (as in you haven’t been-there-done-that) and judgmental about: 1.how difficult a day one might have had; and 2. how devoted one truly is to Our Lord.
Falling asleep while praying the rosary does NOT intrinsically come between us and God; it is NOT a SIN.
Peace, Brother. Thank you for sharing a goal to strive for.