Praying with non Catholics

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Tis_Bearself said:
The Church has left a lot of issues more or less open;
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I wish the Church WOULD come down harder on people like this.

It’s confusing, and it leads to Catholics believing and practicing things that are NOT Church teaching. This leads to conflicts, and conflicts lead to non-Christian/non-Catholic observers rejecting the Catholic Church as The Church of Jesus Christ.

In a family, we expect the parents to “lay down the rules” and tell us the truth about things. When children experience parental ambiguity, it often leads to bad decisions and actions by the children.
 
Ryan22 said:
Yes but the principle always remains true for all ages.
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If we were not to pray with non-Catholics, the Church would still be telling us so. You have every right to your own personal opinion, and certainly aren’t required to pray with anyone you don’t think worthy. But please don’t present your preference as Church teaching.
 
Ryan22 said:
Unless you can’t read;
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How charming of you.

Where is it stated, in the current code of canon law, and/or the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992, issued under Pope St. John Paul II), that Catholics are not to pray with non-Catholics?
 
Ryan22 said:
No; No Catholics can not pray with non Catholics.
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In certain special circumstances, such as the prescribed prayers “for unity,” and during ecumenical gatherings, it is allowable, indeed desirable that Catholics should join in prayer with their separated brethren. Such prayers in common are certainly an effective means of obtaining the grace of unity, and they are a true expression of the ties which still bind Catholics to their separated brethren. “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them”.
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Unitatis Redintegratio, 2,8
 
In other words, you don’t have anything from canon law or the Catechism. Thank you for admitting that.
 
I mean Protestants are Catholic but in a state of protest. So technically you could pray with them.
I don’t see a problem with that.
 
Unitatis Redintegratio is Church teaching. If you choose to refuse it, that’s fine by me, but your posts imply that the Church’s position on ecumenism is something that it is not.
 
Ryan22 said:
I have cited several authors all who quote both scripture and the clear and constant Tradition of the Church.
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An “author” who “quotes Scripture…and…Tradition” doesn’t mean he’s communicating the official teaching of the Church. Martin Luther quoted Scripture all the time.
 
Ryan22 said:
I gave far more references than Hay.
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You haven’t provided any good references and just about everything you’ve posted is contrary to Church teaching. You’re spreading misinformation and derailing a thread on which many others have given good, useful answers that also addressed the pre-Vatican II teachings about Catholic interaction with non-Catholics, or the concerns about common worship. You appear also to have an agenda, in that you insult and dismiss the official teaching of the Church.
 
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You are free to choose to disagree with the Magisterium, but it doesn’t make it any less the Magisterium - unless you are a sedevacantist and do not recognize its authority, which is a whole other topic.
 
puer.dei said:
In other words, you don’t have anything from canon law or the Catechism.
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Worse than that, he completely dismisses the current canon law as modernist.

Well, I think I’m done on this thread now. OP, I hope you received the useful information you were seeking before things went off the rails here.
 
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Ryan22 said:
Baltimore Catechism – Confraternity Ed. (1941) Vol. II. Lesson 16.

“ How does a Catholic sin against faith? A Catholic sins against faith by apostasy, heresy, indifferentism, and by taking part in non-Catholic worship.”

“Catholics believe that their own Church is the only one founded by God Himself and that all others are false. Hence, it is illogical of Catholics to attend services held by ministers of false religions.” - This Is the Faith (1951) Chapter 8 (1). The First Commandment. - Fr. Canon Francis Ripley
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But nothing in the current catechism? How odd, if it’s so important.
 
Ryan22 said:
Hmm. I actually said nothing about the New Code. Just because something isn’t contained in there doesn’t mean it rejects it. Where did you learn logic?
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From reading the Code of Canon Law.
Can. 6 §1. When this Code takes force, the following are abrogated:
1/ the Code of Canon Law promulgated in 1917;

By the way, you might also want to re-visit the CAF guidelines regarding being civil to other posters.
 
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