Presidential Debate #2

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SeekNFind said:
Actually not quite half. High 30-low 40% was what the fact checkers came up with.
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Cut 62 % last 3 years of Bush compared to first three years of Obama. Obama spoke falsely regardless of how youvwork the numbers
 
scipio337 said:
What I find even more nauseating is hearing the President say “My plan is to…”

He’s HAD the opportunity to implement his plans, including a filibuster-proof majority in both houses of Congress for his past two years.

What is the difference between his “plans” as President, and the policies he’s had in place for the past 4 years?
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EXACTLY!

I can’t believe people are actually listening to what his supposed plans are at the same time they have clearly ignored what he has done and failed to do with the 4 years he has already had.
 
SeekNFind said:
Of course! That was Romney in essence: an entitled arrogant rich man. He didn’t even have to make such a statement to that crowd. He said it because he meant it.
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You seem pretty convinced that Romney’s an evil rich guy. Why even watch the debates?
 
Cider said:
EXACTLY!

I can’t believe people are actually listening to what his supposed plans are at the same time they have clearly ignored what he has done and failed to do with the 4 years he has already had.
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His only plan is more of the same…and “make the rich ‘pay their fair share.’” I don’t see it as a winning proposition.
 
Cider said:
EXACTLY!

I can’t believe people are actually listening to what his supposed plans are at the same time they have clearly ignored what he has done and failed to do with the 4 years he has already had.
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but… but… 47%!!!11 :rolleyes:
 
Dawnia said:
Hmmm…pretty sure it was Obama then too. 😃 But seriously, he was arguing when I tuned in. Just stating a fact.

I apparently wasn’t the only person who thought he was obnoxious. The focus groups made up of women thought so too. 🤷 Maybe it’s just a female thing.
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Right, but I just think it’s interesting that Romney is considered “confident” when he talks over everybody but Biden and Obama are “aggressive” or “obnoxious.” Let’s say they’re all obnoxious. 🤷 Don’t applaud bad behaviour in one but not another.
 
Good points on an after debate conversation I’m listening to…

Romney challenged Obama on his attempts to paint himself as pro-gas and pro-coal. No one will believe that… 😛
 
SeekNFind said:
Right, but I just think it’s interesting that Romney is considered “confident” when he talks over everybody but Biden and Obama are “aggressive” or “obnoxious.” Let’s say they’re all obnoxious. 🤷 Don’t applaud bad behaviour in one but not another.
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:crying:
 
estesbob said:
Cut 62 % last 3 years of Bush compared to first three years of Obama. Obama spoke falsely regardless of how youvwork the numbers
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Exactly. Even SeekNFind’s numbers don’t support Obama’s false claim that the numbers are up. He completely lied.
 
47% of Americans may be an exaggeration, however, it is true for both sides that there is a certain %age of the population that will not be swayed to the other candidate no matter what. No one wants to hear that truth but it is what it is.
 
SeekNFind said:
To be fair, he mentioned the non-abortion services that PP provides such a mammograms and paps.
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Planned Parenthood does not provide mamograms

Of course he would not mention abortion by name, nobody that publicly supports PP such as Hollywood celebrities do, because they know it would not be popular. If you mention the few health services they provide is fine, but if you mention the fact that PP is America’s biggest abortion provider that would go down well
 
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