I have read the thread, and this discussion started with the Church will prevail. I agree with that, but I also think we MUST defend her. I believe our current administration is attacking our Church. HHS Secretary is Catholic. I just cannot believe what comes out of her mouth and her office. I feel obligated to vote this administration out. I also feel RR will see to it that our Catholic institutions will not be obligated to go against Church Teaching.
Our form of government requires an informed, engaged and empowered citizenry. It’s “we the people” – not politicians – who are the leaders. The threshold for exercising our leadership starts, but doesn’t end, with the hiring of public servants through the electoral process. We are not supposed to elect folks and forget about them; we have to be actively engaged. So whether you vote early, or on Election Day, your vote matters. Mattering even more is your commitment to being consistently engaged in public policy after Election Day!
Thank you for this. We must not let this issue go away. Hillary’s “responsibility” speech was meant to make this whole thing go away.I did not watch the debate, I heard key excerpts. I did not watch because I knew how it would go - prior to the debate, I told my wife:
(1) Obama will interrupt Romney, ala Biden/Ryan. The moderator will let him. Romney though, after the Biden fiasco, will be trained in this area and he will deflect the interruption and return same, like two sword fighters clanging swords in parry and thrust. Romney will not fall for that cheap ‘interrupt’ trick used by Biden.
(2) The moderator will not stop Obama’s interruptions (and blame the interrupting on Romney as much as they can get away with), and will not watch the time properly either, giving Obama more time (if someone dissembles or talks/thinks slower, that is their deficiency and debates are supposed to expose that; the moderator is not supposed to compensate for this deficiency in a candidate by allotting more time to the one dissembling.)
(3) The moderator will save Obama when necessary. The lib media decided this after without moderator help their guy got slaughtered, and would get slaughtered again.
My only wonderment is a very disheartening thought: was Libya a set trap piece, orchestrated between Obama/Axelrod and Crowley? Do they have a mole in the Romney camp who leaked things? They are from Chicago. I found it odd she had the transcript handy (did she have all of both sides’ speeches over the last several months handy? I doubt it. Did she have every speech Obama gave for two weeks on Libya handy? Why the Rose Garden speech? Obama spoke at the UN on it, where he blamed it on the movie and again did not call it a terror attack - did she have that speech handy too?), Obama played this whole thing to the hilt - telling Romney to proceed, Obama lying again to the nation about what he said about the attack, and then Crowley interjecting - then Obama had her ‘say it louder’. Then she changed subjects to pivot away from the topic?
All of it seemed rather odd. Libya is becoming a major cover-up worse than Watergate, except in Watergate nobody died. Intelligence said an attack was coming (both US and other nations warned the Obama admin on this) , Ambassador Stevens’ journal (which CNN i.e. Crowley read) showed he felt deserted by the Obama administration in his quest for security; people in the embassy saw the Libyan ‘security detail’ photographing the embassy entrances etc the day before the attack and wondered in an email or text if they would be alive the next day etc etc.
Embassies are a target of Al Qaeda, so with all the intel that an attack was coming it is an inconceivable blunder of the highest order that led to the death of the ambassador. How could they not secure the embassy on the 11th anniversary of the Sept 11th attack??
I feel once they realized this and how it makes Obama look like a complete buffoon on terror and not up to the task, they (Obama, Axelrod etc) acted quickly to concoct the movie story, but that has now blown up in their faces - this is not Chicago after all. Obama said the movie story the next day and sent Rice to the Sunday shows FIVE days later to hype the movie story too.
And now, is Crowley in on it too, or is she a victim of her bias against Romney? I find it hard to believe Obama/Axelrod and Crowley would do something so risky, but they have one thing going for them: because most Americans are decent folk who could not imagine such a thing, nobody would believe it or think it (Chicago often takes advantage of the good nature of the average person). The Libya debate discussion smells like a trap, though.
This is the last debate Crowley will ever moderate, you can bank on it. And it seems most people have seen through it -they see she helped Obama get out of lie, and I am sure some fence-sitters were repulsed by it to the point they shifted to Romney at that very moment she opened her mouth.
God bless you.
Well, you said before that you wouldn’t vote for Romney because of how his supporters behaved, so I hope your decision is more serious than that.
The Jews are God’s chosen people. A lot of good that did them when HUMANS did nothing to stop the Holocaust from beginning.
How many trials, including great suffering, did God impose on the chosen people?
I hope you have not made up your mind completely. There are millions of unborn babies who would like you to re-consider.
Unfortunately many babies will not live - due to otherwise good people not doing something effective to oppose evil. Are you sure you don’t want to vote?
But a conscience which chooses to do nothing to stop a supporter of infanticide from getting 4 more years and shaping an entire branch of government to conform to his radical anti-life ideology is one that doesn’t seem to be properly formed. Follow your conscience - but inform your conscience.
And this is true. The Church may be allowed to dwindle down to juts enough to still survive (a few people), but it will always survive.
When you have one campaign that is focused primarily upon demonizing the other, rather than presenting a positive vision for what they are going to do…this is bound to happen.
The biggest problem with town hall debates is the unfairness of the questions. Romney was asked how are you different than George Bush? Why wasn’t Obama asked a comparative question; how are you different than Bill Clinton? Aside from that, most of the questions were pointless
I agree. Questions hand-picked by liberal moderator who are already declared the romney?ryan ticket a disaster. A moderator who came prepared with documents to bolster whatever half-truths or outright lies the president told. A moderator who interrupted romney three times more than she interrupted obama and gave obama nearly 10% more speaking time over the course of the debate. in spite of all that, as the polls continually show, stacking the deck for obama did him no good whatsoever
Does anyone in the Republican Party even care what David Brooks has to say about anything? Why do media outlets even publish him anymore?
I’m associated with Opus Dei and a conservative parish, so I hang around with fairly conservative Catholics. There seems to be a consensus that we are going through a conservative consolidation. Numbers may shrink for awhile, but the Catholics that remain will be more conservative, pious, faithful to the Magisterium and the Holy See, and particularly observant of Holy Mass and the sacraments. The liberal religious orders are fading in numbers, while conservative orders are growing rapidly. Groups like Opus Dei and Legatus are doing well in the United States.
If I may, Tampa Dave, the more solid, conservative denominations seem to be gaining. It’s been my theory that a lot of conservative Christians in various Protestant denominations are going either Catholic or non-denom because so many churches are split on the marriage issue, among other issues.