Presidential Debate #2

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I think you’re incorrect on that count, because the problem is the Romney only offers HALF of his plan… the half that everyone wants to hear. Tax cuts and a strong military. He refuses to go into the other half… how to pay for it. That’s the problem, and that’s the gaping hole.

The arrogance of saying: “Well of COURSE the math adds up” is absolutely astonishing. The President claims that your plan adds 8 trillion to the deficit, and all you can do is reassure us that it adds up without mentioning any specific cuts or loopholes to close. It’s mind boggling. His argument in EVERY debate is, “Trust me, I go this. Now let’s talk about how much worse off you are than you were four years ago.”
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Months of Obama campaign portraying Romney as basically rich and heartless, unable to connect with an average voter was destroyed tonight. Romney showed compassion and empathy
 
I think you’re incorrect on that count, because the problem is the Romney only offers HALF of his plan… the half that everyone wants to hear. Tax cuts and a strong military. He refuses to go into the other half… how to pay for it. That’s the problem, and that’s the gaping hole.

The arrogance of saying: “Well of COURSE the math adds up” is absolutely astonishing. The President claims that your plan adds 8 trillion to the deficit, and all you can do is reassure us that it adds up without mentioning any specific cuts or loopholes to close. It’s mind boggling. His argument in EVERY debate is, “Trust me, I go this. Now let’s talk about how much worse off you are than you were four years ago.”
If he has only offered half his plan, then how is it possible for people to claim to have scored the proposal? It doesn’t work both ways.
 
I think you’re incorrect on that count, because the problem is that Romney only offers HALF of his plan… the half that everyone wants to hear. Tax cuts and a strong military. He refuses to go into the other half… how to pay for it. That’s the problem, and that’s the gaping hole.

The arrogance of saying: “Well of COURSE the math adds up” is absolutely astonishing. The President claims that your plan adds 8 trillion to the deficit, and all you can do is reassure us that it adds up without mentioning any specific cuts or loopholes to close. It’s mind boggling. His argument in EVERY debate is, “Trust me, I go this. Now let’s talk about how much worse off you are than you were four years ago.”
Once the Socialist is out of the way, people will have confidence, and a hotter economy generates more tax revenues.
 
Months of Obama campaign portraying Romney as basically rich and heartless, unable to connect with an average voter was destroyed tonight. Romney showed compassion and empathy
That was destroyed by Obama’s final word on the 47%.
 
Here’s a transcript of the 9/12 comments by the President regarding Benghazi. He uses the word “terror” once, and it isn’t in direct relation to this attack:

whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

**No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. ** Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
After these remarks, he flew to Las Vegas for a fundraiser.
 
No way…what was the deal with him going off on a tangent about education,when the question was about banning assault weapons:confused:
And what about Romney’s tangent on single mothers in relation to gun violence? What was the connection there?
 
I haven’t gotten a chance to watch the debate yet, but judging from all the buzz I’ve seen so far it looks like they were pretty evenly matched and the only ones declaring it a blowout either way are the partisan hacks.

Anyone know who’s going to be the moderator of the last debate?
 
That was destroyed by Obama’s final word on the 47%.
Perhaps Romney does have issues with poor people. But at least he wants them to live and doesn’t consider them a ‘mistake’ to be dealt with at the end of a scalpal.
 
Here’s a transcript of the 9/12 comments by the President regarding Benghazi. He uses the word “terror” once, and it isn’t in direct relation to this attack:

whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

**No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. ** Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
 
If he has only offered half his plan, then how is it possible for people to claim to have scored the proposal? It doesn’t work both ways.
I think we’re talking past each other. Here’s the issue:

Obama: Your proposals will increase the deficit by 8 trillion, and you haven’t given us anything concrete as far as what you’re going to cut and what loopholes you’re going to close. The math doesn’t add up.

Romney: OF COURSE the math adds up.

That’s the problem. Are we on the same page now? 😉
 
I don’t think either “dominated.” The President certainly did much better than he did in the first debate. I think Romney was better in the first debate. From a style standpoint, they tied. I think it was either a draw or Romney, but we’ll see what the rest of the country thinks. My vote, and yours, are pretty well settled.
Neither dominated.

But one was caught in a falsehood, and it created one of the most memorable moments of the debate.
 
From Politifact:

Barack Obama says Mitt Romney calls Arizona immigration law a “model for the nation”



If Obama’s lies are so transparent that a left wing agitprop site like Politifact calls him on it, that’s bad.
 
Actually not quite half. High 30-low 40% was what the fact checkers came up with.
Well, Romney did ask him “what percentage did you cut it,” but Obama didn’t give “high 30-low 40%” as an answer.
 
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