Presidential Debate #2

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ringil said:
I’ve heard of Stein but not Goode.

What happened to the “rent is too damn high!” guy. Looked like a black Martin Van Buren.
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Obama’s attack agencies linked him to an improper sexual relationship with one of the members of the Occupy movement that happened to be David Axelrod’s babysitter…
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
And Romney is not onboard with abortion for any reason, at any stage of pregnancy.
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“I don’t believe that bureaucrats in Washington should tell someone whether they can use contraceptives or not, and I don’t believe employers should tell someone whether they could have contraceptive care or not,” Mr. Romney said, using time from another question to try to rebut the president. “Every woman in America should have access to contraceptives.”
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Prodigal_Son1 said:
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Depends on which pundit you ask. Romney supporters would point out he doesn’t want to limit contraception access, but also doesn’t want to mandate coverage by people of conscience.

At the same time, some on the Daily Kos are calling him a liar, stating that he supported the “Blunt Amendment”, which was meant to “limit access” (even though it only excluded mandatory “free” coverage).

I think we shouldnt’ conflate “access” with 'free".
 
ishii said:
No, its a question of the Obama knowing that it wasn’t the video at all that caused the attack but a terrorist group. But the references to the video as the cause went on for weeks. This is not the case with WMD’s in Iraq: Bush and the Democrats - including President Clinton two years earlier believed there were WMD’s. Clinton even said, "and make no mistake he (Saddham Hussein) will use them.
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Fortunately, Iraq employed the Brits to destroy the last of the chemical WMD last summer. I don’t know whether that’s completed or not. Earlier, of course, the Canadians got the yellow cake.

So, on the assumption that the Brits were sprightly in doing their job, Iraq ought to be WMD free unless there’s something buried out in the trackless, featureless desert. 😉
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
There is a difference in state and federal politics. Romney will have just as much trouble as Obama has had, and we’ll be stuck in the middle.

Oh, the adjectives I used were aimed more at the ‘sheepole’ who have bought into being led by politicians, and I don’t care which side they are on.
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Hey - the ability to work with others - Romney has that experience in Massachussetts - and that has to count for something. Its better to me than Obama saying - “there was an election, John, and you lost” right as he rammed Obamacare down the country’s throat.

I think our country is divided - between partisans on the right and partisans on the left, with a fairly significant portion in the middle that generally is a-political and votes on the pocketbook issues. Bill Clinton and the Republicans worked together to balance the budget and reform welfare - and that was in the midst of a very partisan time. So things can get done, but the leadership and willingness to work with others has to come from the president first - and Obama has refused to do so.

Ishii
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
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Contraceptives are evil. I, as a pharmacist, do not dispense them.

Politics is the art of the possible, not the perfect. I’ll take an America where abortions are fewer, hopefully leading to a day when they will not exist.

Having said all that: nice try. Obama is for abortion on demand and expanded OC and gay so called marriage. So he is orders of magnitude worse than Romney.

The Obama gang here has got to stop arguing that Romney isn’t perfect. We all know that he, and every human being on earth, is a sinner. Pretty silly arguing that that is a reason not to vote for Romney, because he is a sinner. Put simply: duh.

What I will argue, though, is that comparing the policies of the two candidates with a realistic chance of winning, Romney wins in a landslide.
 
SamH said:
Obama’s attack agencies linked him to an improper sexual relationship with one of the members of the Occupy movement that happened to be David Axelrod’s babysitter…
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Well Sam, we were trying to have a light-hearted thread for a change. . . . . . .

Can’t you cut out the angst for just a moment?
 
i thought that Romney won the debate last night. Obama was caught in several lies and Obama appeared very angry. he had candy crowley in his back pocket last night. her work at a moderator for the debates was pathetic. i hope people could see through it.
i thought Obama’s performance was whiny, feel sorry for me. he had to have candy steer the debate to favor him at several points. it was embarrassing.

i am tired of these unfair debates with liberal biased moderators.

how do we even know these people were really undecided. i think Obama knew ahead of time which questions were going to be asked. he had prepared replies set to go. he never says anything original. no plans for the next 4 years. just attack Romney.
 
SamH said:
Now you are just parsing words, how can people have access to it if it isn’t free?
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So far as I can tell, Walgreens, CVS, etc will still sell condoms, and you could obtain a (cheap) birth control perscription, should the HHS mandate be overturned.

Much like it was prior to January, 2012.
 
ringil said:
Well Sam, we were trying to have a light-hearted thread for a change. . . . . . .

Can’t you cut out the angst for just a moment?
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Aren’t you worried about someone who is only 270 electoral votes short of becoming the next president?:eek:
 
scipio337 said:
So far as I can tell, Walgreens, CVS, etc will still sell condoms, and you could obtain a (cheap) birth control perscription, should the HHS mandate be overturned.

Much like it was prior to January, 2012.
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Exactly.
 
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