Excuse me, Father, but you asked this:
- Neither does any US bishop I know of so instruct and enforce his instructions. Please name one or more who does.
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I did so with the listing of bishops in Rockford, Illinois, Chicago, Illinois, and Charlotte, NC. I have personally received instruction from one of the bishops in Rockford, and I have personal knowledge of the others. For you to ask me to:
I think it unlikely that Chicago or Rockford have added anything to the USCCB instruction, so Frbrenden will be doing this thread a major service if he cites any current diocesan language instructing CHs to check their paten hands and consume any Fragments found.
Mere instruction does not suffice, of course, when it comes to avoiding profanation of the Blessed Sacrament. Enforcement is required. What enforcement is in place at Chicago and Rockford, if the specified instruction has been promulgated there?
is changing the request to something that is difficult to document, as it came by means of talking to various bishops on a personal basis.
At this point, Father, I believe that you have crossed the line into scrupulosity. In other words, you are beating a dead horse. No one on this list is going to be able to give you a 100% guarantee that every Fragment is being dealt with according to Canon law, and when you are assured that there are
some people out there that are doing all they can to make sure that Fragments are not lost willy-nilly, you throw up a brick wall by asking for documentation. Give it a rest.
I am no longer going to post on this subject, nor communicate about this subject with you via any means.
By the way, the following is Wikipedia’s listing on Scrupulosity. I think you should study it:
***From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scrupulosity is obsessive concern with one’s personal sins, including “sinful” acts or thoughts usually considered minor or trivial within their religious tradition. The term is derived from the Latin scrupulus, a sharp stone, implying a stabbing pain on the conscience.
In modern times, scrupulosity is often considered to be a religious expression of obsessive-compulsive disorder, or the unrelated obsessive-compulsive personality disorder. The scrupulous person lacks a balanced religious outlook, veering to the extreme. Often the person has a morbid feeling that they are rejected by God and doomed to damnation despite rigid adherence to rituals or rules of conduct. The over-scrupulous person may refuse to acknowledge the verdict of otherwise accepted religious authorities that he or she is being excessively concerned with moot religious points.[citation needed]
In Catholicism, scrupulosity in itself is not considered to be sinful; some well-known saints, including Ignatius Loyola, and Alphonsus Liguori struggled with scrupulosity. Some Catholic scholars have speculated that Martin Luther, whose ideas and writings helped give rise to the Protestant Reformation, suffered from scrupulosity and broke with the Catholic Church because he could not accept Catholic assurances of grace in the face of his feelings of sinfulness.[citation needed]
Protestants are likely to disagree that scrupulosity was the basis for Luther’s actions, but some agree that he suffered from scrupulosity. Some Protestants also find traces of scrupulosity in the writings of the 17th century Puritan pastor and author John Bunyan.
In overcoming scrupulosity, medical treatment for OCD may be used alongside religious counseling, wherein a member of the clergy will counsel the subject to focus on positive, objective messages of religious faith rather than subjective feelings of sinfulness and objection; he or she may also advise the person to avoid typical scrupulous behaviors, which can include repeating past confessions or constant bathing.[citation needed]
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*) have a new and lessener belief in the Real Presence. The more casual or personal the attitude, the more casual or personal the actual belief. Sad.
:yawn: 
uch: :doh2: