Regarding this, science today is light years ahead of what it used to be.
As do we. And when I was a catechist, I had to spend a couple classes going over the “Circle of Grace” with my students. For my fourth graders, that meant appropriate use of technology.
That is a sad way to live life. I have dozens and dozens, likely hundreds if I made a list, of people whom I trust 100%.
I suspect when I was growing up that our parish was considered an “easy assignment” as they seemed to send us many priests who were ill or having problems. We had one who was alcoholic and got involved with some woman, one who seemed to have a mental or nervous disorder, one who had some chronic physical health problems throughout his whole life and was in and out of the hospital, and I think one or two more with issues. At that time there were usually 3 or 4 priests in residence at the rectory so these guys didn’t cause a big disruption but I remember my mother saying it was like our parish was the priest hospital.
I was raised in general not to trust anyone 100% outside the immediate family, so I would say in my life I maybe trusted 5 or fewer people 100% about everything, and two of them were my parents and one is my spouse.
There are female pedophiles out there. The Church may be fortunate in that it has not had a high-profile case of this happen in a way that made the news, but the sheer number of female teachers being busted for child sex abuse in the US is staggering (you don’t hear about most of this in the mainstream media; there are websites that track arrests and put the mug shots up however), and there was at least one well-publicized case where a woman who I believe was affiliated with a Protestant church sexually abused and killed a young girl. Often the women’s cases are not treated with the same severity by the courts.
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Full ordination of a priest, until final vows, takes around 12 years. With the right filters put in place, not even James Bond could get through. The problem was a complex set of human and social circumstances, that all brought together contributed to corrupt them. [Here lies the paradox, the seminary, their place in society, contributed to making them sick. They were most likely not sick before entering the seminary, although they may have been predisposed to a lesser degree.]
Uhhh yeah.Well, “padre” in the parish next to mine (younger than me) went to seminary after grade school…Do the math
“Padre” in my parish went to seminary at beginning of high school
But TODAY men get through seminary in 4 years. (After about a year of discernment and tests)Xanthippe_Voorhees:
I referred to evidence “50.0002” higher up in the thread. At the first half of the 20th century, there were no schools (beyond grade school) in most part of the world!!! All schools (to be free schooling without tuition) belonged to the church and were run by religious.
So, any poor kid wanting to try his luck at studying, had to go to the seminary…It was strict and rigorous, drop-out rates above 95% especially at college level [only the best would pass the first years of philosophy. Normally, they’d be sent 1 year to a top university abroad for they final year. After that, 10 years somewhere in the jungle or Savannah in Africa, Asia, or South America. The world map is what it is today, because of celibate ascetic man like these.
A PhD is Bachellors (4) +Masters (2)+ Dissertation (2-4) years. That’s 8 minimum…for a 18yo HS graduate they’d be at least 26, not 21. That said, a PhD is NOT a requirement of priesthood.Xanthippe_Voorhees:
You mean the geniuses defending PhD theses in Rome before Cardinals and Bishops at 21 years of age.
There are “Seminary” high schools, but real seminary does NOT begin with minors in 2017
