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cjforJesus
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The link you posted regarding Gopi Krishna statement implies that all mystical experiences are related to kundalini and that yoga seems to be the most reliable way to achieve a mystical experience.
I believe this to be a false premise as God is the one who raises an individual to contemplation. Kundalini is said to be some sort of spiritual force which is nonsense. If it causes people to lose control of their bodies there is something seriously wrong. I can find no written evidence that any saint lost control of the body in ecstasy. Their senses seem to be suspended in an unusual way though where they lose perception of the environment
When St Bernadette was in rapture in the presence of the Blessed Virgin her face took on an ethereal glow and beauty that was unearthly.
The fact that Satanists and luciferians routinely utilize this energy is also problematic. I read somewhere that one of the surest ways of the so called “left hand paths” is tantric sex involving sodomy!This supposedly stimulates a small gland near the tailbone which is allegedly connected to the pineal gland. If that is not a bid red flag I donnot know what is.
I believe the Catholic Church allows some of the techniques such as sitting quietly and perhaps repeating a prayer to focus,but I am not sure it encourages an immerssion in an abyss of nothingness.
I was researching the hand positions of the little girl in the lotus position that was posted.These gestures are supposed to have actual physical benefits related to the brain yet I cannot find any scientific studies where those motions do increase brain activity in specific regions.
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Michael_Mayo
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I agree with you. Kundalini, Yoga, Kryia purifications, whatever, all involve the body. They are ways of refining the nervous system and therefor only tools. Spirituality involves love and self giving. Stretches can release tension so that one feels more relaxed and in that relaxed state can more easily turn to God. Pranayama is far too exotic and technical for most people. It is alleged to purify the flow of “subtle” energy. But there is actually no scientific evidence of such channels (nadi) or centers (chakras). Whatever it does, It is all still in the natural realm. Sure, if one experiments with different breathing patterns and exercises there will be a physiological effect…probably related to levels of O2 and CO2 in the blood. Al of those techniques and exercises are natural tools that an be used for *spiritual *good or bad.
Good, stay with scientific studies and not that bogus anecdotal stuff.
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rbak923
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I believe this to be the truth myself. I met a woman who tried to contact an “ascended master” in order to “gain wisdom” from the spirit world. After performing some rituals along with her husband she did “make contact” with some sort of entity. It was friendly at first but slowly revealed it’s true nature over time. She lost her marriage and eventually became homeless and is now “stuck” with voices in her head. The voices tell her that Jesus is not the Savior and lie to her about many things. I have no doubt in my mind that if she tried to accept Jesus Christ as her Savior, stopped listening to what the voices say, and asked Jesus to help her - her situation would improve considerably.
The verse about “testing the spirits” (see 1 John 4:1) is helpful when trying to help someone in this situation.
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Michael_Mayo
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I guess there are many forms of meditation.
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Mystical_Seeker
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We are always under spiritual influence. Not just when we sit in certain configurations. What is it, are the spirits sitting behind a window watching us and when I sit a certain way a group of them goes, “ah there’s my cue” and moves in? Like they would have left me alone had I not “assumed the proper position”?
Believing there are spirits who actually care about our posture when we’re relaxing is a stretch in an of itself, afa I’m concerned. Superstitious even. Like I’m not tormented by spirits because they are just waiting for my hand or leg to get into the proper position so WHAM! They can move in and possess me. :whacky:
Believing there are spirits who actually care about our posture when we’re relaxing is a stretch in an of itself, afa I’m concerned. Superstitious even. Like I’m not tormented by spirits because they are just waiting for my hand or leg to get into the proper position so WHAM! They can move in and possess me. :whacky:
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Mystical_Seeker
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Maybe part of the reason these things seem to have such power over us is that we are afraid of them. 
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cjforJesus
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They actually have no power over us,Mystical.The only power that they utilize is the FAITH in them.Like Michael said nadis and chakras do not exist they are most likely an ancient expression regarding our nervous and endocrine system. However faith that you can unknot or balance them in some way by postures and hand position perhaps may give legal license to spiritual entities always seeking to lead people AWAY from Jesus Christ.Maybe part of the reason these things seem to have such power over us is that we are afraid of them.
Many people now claim to be channeling entities whether it be ascended masters(fallen angels) alien or “higher self”,they are all deceptions.
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cjforJesus
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Sorry for the poor grammar and punctuation.I am not much of a writer.
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Michael_Mayo
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How do you feel about chiropractors?
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cjforJesus
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Chiropractors manipulate the vertebrae I thought to alleviate pinched nerves and the pain they cause.At least I think that is what they do.
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Michael_Mayo
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Yes, they do it through forced postures, twists and stretches. Spiritual Danger?
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cjforJesus
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Chiropractors as far as I know are not attempting a union with God when they manipulate your body.
In a previous post you attached a linked statement by a major guru.He said that kundalini is at the heart of yoga. If as I stated previously that the purpose of yoga is union with the divine through the unleashing of a serpent force that you say is too complex to define then how can that not be spiritually dangerous?You could be dealing with forces in your limited human intelligence that you know nothing about.
Now as I said previously if you practice the stretches and poses without the belief in kundalini,reincarnation,and chakras you are probably safe.
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Michael_Mayo
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I thought you were of the opinion that intention (of doing yoga) was not relevant to the existence of danger.
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cjforJesus
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No.quite a few posts back(post 366) I said I examined the issue again and stated that as long as you avoid the beliefs such as kundalini chakras and reincarnation you should be safe from any spiritual oppression.
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agnes_therese
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So, you’re now saying that there’s nothing wrong with the practice of the physical exercise of yoga, as some of us have been saying all along, correct?
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cjforJesus
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Yes,as long as you do not believe in chakras reincarnation or kundalini.It was post 366)
Not to get off topic though in reference to a past post of yours;it is not necessary to “prepare” to receive the gift of contemplation.It is a gift given to very few though. Contemplation is not the same as the spiritual hug of baptism in the Spirit. I think baptism of the Spirit people prepare for by going to a Life in the Spirit seminar.
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Michael_Mayo
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Ok, We agree.:clapping:
The danger is in how easy it can be to slip into that whole "system " of stuff and lose focus on Christ.
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hello123
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it is likely that there are billions in the world who practice yoga or new age stuff.i havent heard /seen any one soul who has been possessed by demon from practicing it. i dont practice it and i dont believe its harmful for the soul!
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cjforJesus
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No the stretching is not but the spiritual practice of seeking to unleash some unknown force that can cause psychosis and make one loose control is very harmful. Demonic oppression is not always obvious but can be very subtle. Its main focus is to lead people AWAY from Jesus Christ
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