Priest 'smashes chair' over Italian restaurant owner's head as nuns kick him in the stomach

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Make up Artist,

Are all people who don’t have great health care in the US addicts?
I’m sorry, but why would you ask me a stupid question like that? You’ve consistently posted things in threads that show zero logic. I’m not going to believe for a second that notsmart isn’t a troll name meant to annoy people with crazy arguments.

I’ll explain something to you one last time. In Canada, millionaires have the same health care as homeless addicts. This means the system benefits the lower classes at the expense of the upper classes. In the U.S. those with the right plan do not have to wait months for treatment. Their health care isn’t rationed. They have access to the best. This is why many Canadians come to the U.S. for treatment.
 
I’ll explain something to you one last time. In Canada, millionaires have the same health care as homeless addicts. This means the system benefits the lower classes at the expense of the upper classes.
And this is “bad” because … ?

Do you not believe in the Catholic teaching that all human life is of worth and dignity? That nobody’s life is of less value, or less worth saving, than anyone else’s? :confused:
 
Yes, people do actually die and suffer from being unable to afford healthcare.
marci, you say not providing healthcare isn’t intrinsically evil, but that is your thought, and it is not a fact like you presented it to be. In the church we have a confession, which asks for forgiveness for “what I have done, and what I have failed to do”. I do think it is cruel to deny healthcare to ailing people, whatever their level of sickness- from a broken leg, to a lost finger, to a deadly disease.
I am not asserting abortion is more or less evil than this. They are both terrible. A voter has to look at the candidate’s policies (it does not have to be part of his campaign platform for him to support it), and decide whose are better. This is NOT a philosophical debate about which is worse. As I made in my very first post, my point is thus: generally, in an election, both sides will have one or two policies that are not likeable (I assume you also agree withholding healthcare is cruel). In which case, a voter must pick which candidates policies are better. It is rare to agree 100% with every single policy, so usually voters (generally speaking, not applicable to everyone) have to pick between the “lesser of two evils”, just as you did.

So please, look at what I am saying and not what you think I’m saying. These are both very sad issues, which makes it more important than ever that we pick very carefully who we vote for and campaign for change.

P.S. JR, my initial post is an argument from analogy, it’s a valid form of reasoning.
 
Will there ever be a thread on this forum that doesn’t involve a debate about abortion and loyalty to Catholic teaching. I used to visit regularly to see what Catholics were thinking about, have a discussion that stays on-topic, leave educated and invigorated. Now, I hear the same rehash on every thread.

I have emailed this complaint to the moderators and the founder when answering the question why I don’t visit the forum more often and why I quit giving financially.

see ya.
 
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