I know, I knowI like the way you defend yourself
Itâs just that in this website there are so many elitist people always acting like theyâre better than others, criticizing people for the littlest thing.
Itâs okay, David. Sometimes you have to give leeway on the internet. We donât know if thatâs the intention. And sometimes people participating have different moods, when they are posting to each other. One might be honestly trying to correct helpfully, while another is spiritedly, healthily debating. While another really is being an elitist!! :bigyikes:I know, I know
This was the only response I think of.
God bless :byzsoc:
David
:yup:Oprah believes in Jesus but has said the reason He came here was to teach mankind how to achieve âChrist Consciousness.â
Proper Titles are not forever; Hitler, Stalin were baptized, no one should call them âchristianâ. One has to Practice ones profession to be entitled to the signature address: Father, Christian, etc, imo. Would anyone call a jailed priest Fr? Minimally, place appropriate notation, not to Slander the Genuine Priesthood, who are opposite of this self-serving type. âDefrockedâ âpriestâ seems appropriate, never formal title, as the Original post had. Lee Harvey Oswald is known as the Only Ex-Marine, but more popularly Never a Marine, or phony. Titles are Very significant.
A priest is a priest forever. The ontological change that occurs in the Sacraments of Baptism, Confirmation and Holy Orders is forever. Thatâs Catholic doctrine.
Years ago, an elderly priest said to us: âWe have to feed ourselves every day.â (spiritually, of course)
That stuff`s poison! I donât think his Baptisms would be invalid. As 1holycatholic wrote above:Years ago, an elderly priest said to us: âWe have to feed ourselves every day.â (spiritually, of course)
If Fr. Kennedy filled his mind with stuff from Hans Kung, Bp. Spong, and a heap of other heterodox sources, what could be expected?
Only speculation, but:
Did he read the Divine Office daily?
Did he ever have Eucharistic Adoration� Hardly likely, it seems.
Did he ever have a trustworthy spiritual director�
Etc.
His worst acts may be the INVALID Baptisms.
As with so many other âCatholicâ groups, social justice is the ONLY thing that matters to these folks. It`s purely secular.
If he used invalid form âCreator, Redeemer, SanctifierâŚâ then they would be invalid.
Well people like that who say they are Catholic and become priests, but donât follow things that are Catholic, I donât consider them priests in my opinion.
You are right, they donât do what priests ought to do. They may stay a priest forever, but taht is not necessarily a good thing.
That`s exactly what he did; and he got away with it for years. Who knows how many of his flock were invalidly baptised?
Doesnât ordination imprint an indelible character?
Parishes keep very good baptismal records. I would think it wouldnât be too difficult to track down everyone he had attempted to baptize. There wouldnât be a record of when an invalid form was used, so everyone he attempted to baptize could be conditionally baptized.That`s exactly what he did; and he got away with it for years. Who knows how many of his flock were invalidly baptised?
The terrible part about it is that his followers support him to the hilt. The great majority followed him into âexileâ; and that included a lot of young families.
Even worse: a lot of other priests support him.
It was the so-called âTemple Policeâ who blew the whistle (not only on the âbaptismsâ, of course); and eventually sent evidence to Rome.
Good point.
s followers are so skewed that most of them probably think everything was OK. i wonder whether they even believe the doctrine of Original Sin! :shrug: Theres not much they DO believe! But you still believe in that paycheck.
Catholic Official Practise to âdefrockâ a Priest violating his Oath to God from Practising.