Lance that is a good point:thumbsup: Protestants are to refrain from taking the Eucharist because they don’t believe what the Catholic Church teaches about the Eucharist yes,but also they must believe the rest of Her teachings and get permission from the Bishop.God Bless
You can’t be a “bad” Catholic. Either you except each and everything the Church teaches. Or you don’t. It’s binary, baby, binary.
I don’t think it would make them a bad Catholic. Just a sinner like every other Catholic. But it would separate them from Grace, making it much, much more likely they would start to reject a teaching of the Church.
St.Claire said:
Yeah! How dare they be held responsible for supporting the destruction of the unborn,how dare they be held responsible for scandalising Church teaching.How dare they be held responsible for upholding laws that rip innocent humans up in the womb,and encouraging others to think it is okay since they are “Catholic”.How dare any one stop them from taking the Eucharist after voting to keep the slaughter of the unborn legal
Any way
When you disagree with Katherine2 be ready for her to attack you personally.Yeah! How dare they be held responsible for supporting the destruction of the unborn,how dare they be held responsible for scandalising Church teaching.How dare they be held responsible for upholding laws that rip innocent humans up in the womb,and encouraging others to think it is okay since they are “Catholic”.How dare any one stop them from taking the Eucharist after voting to keep the slaughter of the unborn legal
Thankyou for your kind warning
She got me on a couple of threads already
She wanted to show off her charitable side
My understanding has always been that a person baptized Catholic remained Catholic even if some of the teachings were not accepted. The only way out as an adult was to publically reject the Catholic Faith in toto, which none of these people have done. If they are really not Catholics any longer why would there be any point in hailing them into a Catholic court? No longer Catholic equals no jurisdiction. One could hardly excommunicate a Jew or a Protestant. If one wants to convert to the Catholic Faith, then rejection of teachings do make that person in eligible for reception into the Faith. They were not Catholic to start with. It is not binary baby.
I am dissappointed in AHHHnold and Rudy for sure. These guys are too intelligent to be pro-choice- They should just know better. Yes Joe Biden is Catholic. My contempt for Joe Biden goes beyond his politics. He plays himself as a “centrist” but he is really just a media hungry blowhard. His behavior the Gonzales hearling was deplorable. He should stick to being more like the late Senator WiIliam Roth and work to improve tax code instead of media grandstanding and making a fool of himself.
of course, if he answered any questions on a catholic college campus…
Well Lance it appears she she dodged the analysis
She dodged the satire Has she fallen ill
Are you stating Catherine that you don’t care that these men are going against one of the most important aspects of our faith should be allowed to continue to help others murder their own innocent children? Are you stating that you don’t care that because of these men’s voting records millions of more women will go to Planned Parenthood or other places to obtain abortions? You don’t care that our tax dollars pay for some of these abortions through medicaid and other programs? That we also pay for the treatment of psychological disorders afterwards, more poverty because of drug abuse afterwards, more suicide, more difficulties of the descendants of those same families because of all of these maladies? Where is the compassion for those children, the ones murdered, and the other family members left behind? Where is the compassion for the woman herself that feels she has no choice but… ? WE as Catholics have an obligation to help those women see that the birth of that child is NOT the end of the road for her, but the beginning of life. Abortion is a mortal sin, and anyone that even supports it has already excommunicated themselves without the need for a tribunal.
Let’s remember that these people as the rest of us have the obligation to be Catholic first, than a politician. They must save their soul first. There are several things wrong with these so called Catholic politicians - first to state that they don’t have to follow their own Catholic doctrine because they have other non Catholic constituants is ludicrous. Anyone that votes for them already knows they are Catholic and what the church stands for. If they don’t know that, then they should study before they vote.
When she attacks us we should pray harder for her. We should also pray harder for us, because the power of Catholic reformists is very close to dividing us, and that is what they want. At Pax Christi Church in Eden Pairie MN, they sent a petition to the Pope asking him to change his position on abortion. Of course the Pope refused. At St Edwards Catholic church in Bloomington MN the Paster there is Pro Choice, and when he was confronted, refused to change his position. The ArchBishop has ignored requests that this Priest be talked to, even though in years past two very outspoken nuns were removed from their order for doing the same. In Minnesota, the Bishops have just wrote that we in Minnesota should all have our taxes raised to support the poor and education. Many, Many of us are appalled by this. First of all, if putting money into education has helped the poor so well, then why do we have more poor today than we had in the 70’s in the US. Throwing tax dollars into the government’s hands never means that it will get to the right people. In this state, it may mean building another government run ski area.