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Killing the babe in the womb remains Murder
PP - Remains an Abomination…
Killing the babe in the womb remains Murder
PP - Remains an Abomination…
But one person has automony and the other doesn’t?Sex requires consent of both parties.
As one partner will not have consented to the sex, sure. It’s rape.
Again, sex requires mutual consent.Hume:
But one person has automony and the other doesn’t?Sex requires consent of both parties.
As one partner will not have consented to the sex, sure. It’s rape.
I don’t see where things without bodily autonomy have rights in the train of thought you propose.Yeah. Since you can’t obtain consent, you can’t have sex with them. Similar to date-rape rules we have on college campuses.
None of Hume’s responses hold water. Why is that?But one person has automony and the other doesn’t?
Because you don’t like them.Elf01:
None of Hume’s responses hold water. Why is that?But one person has automony and the other doesn’t?
No… Because they’re false…Because you don’t like them.
OK, so we agree that not having bodily automonh doesn’t remove all your rights. Why does it remove the right to life?Again, sex requires mutual consent.
As I had to explain to you in the other forum, there are other axioms in play that we can agree on.Hume:
I don’t see where things without bodily autonomy have rights in the train of thought you propose.Yeah. Since you can’t obtain consent, you can’t have sex with them. Similar to date-rape rules we have on college campuses.
Sure…As I had to explain to you in the other forum, there are other axioms in play that we can agree on.
It may not remove it. Not totally, and I was happy to concede that on the other forum.Hume:
OK, so we agree that not having bodily automonh doesn’t remove all your rights. Why does it remove the right to life?Again, sex requires mutual consent.
So you concede that life is a right now.It may not remove it. Not totally, and I was happy to concede that on the other forum.
It’s literally her body. We should labor to help her be as informed as possible. But it’s her ship to steer to port or steer to the rocks. She’s the captain.Hume:
So you concede that life is a right now.It may not remove it. Not totally, and I was happy to concede that on the other forum.
If a woman is pregnant and has morning sickness should she be allowe take thalomide if she wants to?
This isn’t evidence of anything. We also see countries that have already banned abortion.We see this in nature - mom abandoning babies in extreme acute situations where caring for them is impossible.
We see this in the modern world - when choosing between baby and mom in a critical health situation, we choose mom.
The trend is going the other way.Hume:
This isn’t evidence of anything. We also see countries that have already banned abortion.We see this in nature - mom abandoning babies in extreme acute situations where caring for them is impossible.
We see this in the modern world - when choosing between baby and mom in a critical health situation, we choose mom.
It doesn’t prove anything nonetheless because it is an appeal to behavior not to logic.The trend is going the other way.
Out of 180 countries or so, I think there are, like, 12 left with a complete ban.
Sure. I agree with that.Hume:
It doesn’t prove anything nonetheless.The trend is going the other way.
Out of 180 countries or so, I think there are, like, 12 left with a complete ban.
The law forces people to do things all the time so a responsibility towards the fetus can be proscribed since death is permanent and pregnancy is temporary.She is made a slave and that won’t work. I think you Catholics teach that sin (her enslavement) cannot justify good (the forced gestation of her pregnancy)?
Pregnancy is dangerous. My wife has bladder issues after 3, will probably get a hysterectomy in the not too distant future.Hume:
The law forces people to do things all the time so a responsibility towards the fetus can be proscribed since death is permanent and pregnancy is temporary.She is made a slave and that won’t work. I think you Catholics teach that sin (her enslavement) cannot justify good (the forced gestation of her pregnancy)?
Other precautions can be taken to minimize these risks and the harm caused and pregnancies that result in death can be detected and belong to a different category because of a new element.Genuinely, the minimization of women and the danger to women from pregnancy that’s hoisted by a lot of pro-lifers is probably the pathos appeal that wins my side the most converts.
Between that and the death of another, the latter is worse and should be avoided.Pregnancy is dangerous. My wife has bladder issues after 3, will probably get a hysterectomy in the not too distant future.