Pro-Lifers Should Get Same Access to Schools as Planned Parenthood Does

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Jen95 said:
Hume,
You act like Catholics are the only pro-lifers. We’re not. There are pro-lifers of every religious stripe, and atheist prolifers.
Just because a law overlaps some religious edict doesn’t mean that the law is “forcing religion on people”.
I.e. human trafficking. If Catholics are against it, does that mean the US cannot have a law against it?
Your argument doesn’t hold any water.
Would you ever see a bumper sticker that says “if you don’t like human trafficking, don’t traffic anyone”. It’s ridiculous.
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Yes.
And Some Jews oppose Abortion
And Islam Rejects Abortion
 
Sorry I missed the post, I’m very aware Catholics aren’t the only pro lifers. My arguments aren’t particularly tailored to Catholicism.

We should be free from any other person’s religion unless we choose to accept it.
 
Hume said:
We should be free from any other person’s religion unless we choose to accept it.
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And… People ARE Free - aka Free Will - to do/choose/be - anything they’re capable of …

Including showing others various Abominable details about PP - which go beyond just Abortion

Even when others - in expressing their will - don’t like it

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Elf01 said:
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Hume:
We should be free from any other person’s religion unless we choose to accept it.
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What makes a law religious in nature?
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Because that typically describes the premises that allow one to subvert the autonomy of a woman to the very theoretical “autonomy” of the fetus.

There’s no good secular argument for it. It’s usually an extension of divine command and a supposed “right to life” that trumps free moral agency.
 
Hume said:
There’s no good secular argument for it. It’s usually an extension of divine command and a supposed “right to life” that trumps free moral agency.
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If there is no right to life why should it be illegal to kill born people?
 
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Hume:
There’s no good secular argument for it. It’s usually an extension of divine command and a supposed “right to life” that trumps free moral agency.
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If there is no right to life why should it be illegal to kill born people?
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Easy.
Because the default moral state is freedom - libertas - and murder is the ultimate impingement on their freedom.
 
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Hume said:
But I’m not familiar with their arguments as to why a woman’s autonomy is subservient to a fetus.
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It’s naught to do with subservience

It’s all to do with a woman’s baby

Almost all in the history of this planet - abhor Abortion

Hume … have you turned anyone here over to your POV?

Abortion and PP - shall continue to be opposed - in spite of any olde hatt arguments
 
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Hume:
But I’m not familiar with their arguments as to why a woman’s autonomy is subservient to a fetus.
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It’s naught to do with subservience

It’s all to do with a woman’s baby

Almost all in the history of this planet - abhor Abortion

Hume … have you turned anyone here over to your POV?

Abortion and PP - shall continue to be opposed - in spite of any olde hatt arguments
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That’s true. It’s about the baby at the complete discount of the woman.

In these modern days, that’s not acceptable to most.
 
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Hume:
It’s about the baby at the complete discount of the woman.
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We don’t discount the woman.

We just acknowledge that there is another person who also has rights.
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We do too.

We just recognize that the rights of the woman completely eclipse the rights of the fetus.
 
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Hume said:
It’s about the baby at the complete discount of the woman.
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Most women who’ve incurred Abortions killed the babe in the wombs for completely selfish reasons

Planned Parenthood is an Abomination for reasons beyond Murdering Babies.

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Hume said:
The family make decisions on their behalf
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Anyone else could have that right. In fact that means it is okay for anyone to kill the person in a coma or even a sleeping person since they don’t have bodily autonomy either.
 
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Hume:
The family make decisions on their behalf
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Anyone else could have that right. In fact that means it is okay for anyone to kill them.
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Sure. Their spouse. Whoever would be their next legal kin.

If they don’t recover, that’s what eventually occurs. Even if the family don’t agree to terminate, the insurance will send a notice “This is our last payment. Thank you for choosing Healthcorp”. Then the hospital will say “The patient will have exceeded our goodwill allowance in three days, at which time we will remove our equipment from them. Thank you for choosing Main Street Regional”.

Then, unless the family has the cash to keep them served, the coma patient dies.
 
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