Prolifers how would you answer this? Women should be allowed abortion because

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  1. Not everyone wants to deal with child birth and it can mess with you mentally and physically.
  2. Same as number 1 but with pregnancy messing your body up and mind for life.
I’m prolife by the way.
 
  1. How about having irresponsible sex and sex altogether, does this not change your life? Ready for.sex ready for baby, unless rape is involved. But most cases aren’t about rape really…
  2. Same as no 1 plus pregnancy does.not mess up your body. Your body ages anyway and you cannot keep it forever. It is all about what you are willing to do and who to kill to preserve this passing bit of flesh which is your body.
 
I’m actually opposed to the wide publicity abortion is generating these days… I think it’s a subject with thousands of individual, unique cases, and unless the Church is ready to study each individual case, I don’t think there’s a way to avoid wronging some women, such as victims of rape, in this regard. If you want my opinion, it should have been left between the woman and her priest, who knows her case sufficiently. But that doesnt matter now as Rome has pronounced what’s to be done regarding this matter. As in all things, I defer to the Holy See, and trust that the Holy Spirit is guiding it’s dictates and acts.

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How would you answer cases of rape?
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Case sensitive. In cases of rape I advocate personal assistance to the victim and spiritual help. No woman or girl who has been raped should feel compelled to make a public case of her situation. It is enough. Society has failed that girl or woman by simply being unable to provide a safe environment. Society does not have the right to demand a raped woman or girl to make their cases public and social. Rape is absolute social failure. One of those instances.
 
Having been raped is a terrible, dreadful spot to be in.

The unborn baby is also a victim. We all have a right to be conceived by two parents who love each other and are committed to each other. The baby has a rapist who did not love and commit.

So, we are generally unwilling to impose the death penalty on rapists. But we are willing to kill the other innocent victim?

And yes, it is totally unfair that the woman has to suffer through a pregnancy from rape. It would also be totally unfair if during the commission of that crime she had been rendered paralyzed or blind, wouldn’t it?

However, we would not allow the mother to kill even the rapist if by doing so her injury could be healed.

Personal assistance and every other help she needs.
 
Rome has not pronounced: the evilness of abortion has been held throughout the history of the Church.

There simply is no justification for killing an unborn human being.
 
Do you guys have a response concerning a woman’s body being effected during pregnancy?

And why abortion shouldnt be allowed because of it?

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Mary888 said:
Same as no 1 plus pregnancy does.not mess up your body.
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Perhaps you did not have damage from pregnancy. Other women do have damage from pregnancy.

Incontinence is a very common issue after pregnancy because of weakend pelvic floor muscles.

Women may develop hernias from surgery.

There are women who develop Peripartum cardiomyopathy that can be so serious it requires surgical intervention up to and including heart transplant.

Other women have severe, extreme pregnancy scaring. This is not the normal few stretch marks, but, disfiguring, painful, deep scarring. Not simply wrinkles like
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Your body ages anyway and you cannot keep it forever.
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It does the pro-life cause no good to pooh pooh the serious changes that can occur during pregnancy. Better to say “yes, there can be some real profound changes after pregnancy. My hope and prayer is that every woman get the best medical care to keep these complications under control and help her recover in the best way possible.”
 
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does the pro-life cause no good to pooh pooh the serious changes that can occur during pregnancy. Better to say “yes, there can be some real profound changes after pregnancy. My hope and prayer is that every woman get the best medical care to keep these complications under control and help her recover in the best way possible.”
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My mom who had 2 babies, one forced into labor because of the doc, and who is a devout feminist told.me that, no matter what she is being told.today there are far worse pains than those of pregnancy and labor. Same with age damage and disease damage.
 
I’m inclined to thinking it’s case sensitive, but as I said, I defer to Rome.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Perhaps you did not have damage from pregnancy. Other women do have damage from pregnancy.
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@Guest1

Women do not know if one of these very serious problems will happen to them before they do. Ought we to allow women to kill their babies on the off-chance that one of these rare problems will occur? People die while skiing, should we prohibit skiing? ETC.
 
I think it is very interesting that before 1967, when the first heart transplant occurred, there was no widespread call for abortion on the basis that some women were stricken with CHF as a result of pregnancy.

In fact, I have never heard of a widespread call for abortion due to maternal mortality, even when it was not uncommon for women to die in childbirth. Now that we have the capability to prevent or treat almost all these problems, people use their existence to advocate for legalized abortion.
 
This is what I would say: We should keep the killing of unborn humans legal so women don’t have to have stretch marks? Srsly?!?!?

The way to prevent stretch marks from pregnancy is to not have sex.
 
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Well excluding the severe stuff, what about say stretch marks and such with pregnancy?
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Olive oil and other creams for it. My colleagues who had babies told.me that is not the problem if you use the creams daily. However both had to have a C-cut because they are petite. Never a moment of sorrow. The presence of the kid is like revelation for them (they’re not very religious). Women are being bulied into not doing what they have been doing for thousands of years that is now presented as tragedy. Isolated cases are presented as the rule. No, this is not a honest concern for women but something else.
 
Look at what I said.

It is unkind, if a woman is afraid of the potential harm to her body, to pooh pooh those fears and say “honey, your are going to get old anyway so your concerns don’t matter”. Compassion acknowledges those fears and helps her work through them.
 
They can be a few lines or something disfiguring. Mine are so bad that I look like a burn victim from my navel to my knees. After thirty years the damaged skin still has incurable itching.

Some can be helped with creams, on others it is severe and can only be helped with plastic surgery.

We acknowledge that this is a possibility and help the women to accept her body if it becomes disfigured.
 
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