Prominent Catholics call on pope to oust S.F. archbishop

[johnpaul2rocks]

I don’t have even the slightest shred of doubt that the Holy Father will ignore this awful plea.

The critics are being ridiculous, and anyone who spends any time reading the Archbishop’s statements can see that he’s coming from a place of love.

I sincerely hope he doesn’t ignore this disgusting smear against one of his sheep. If somebody was launching vicious attacks against your kids, are you telling me you would just ignore it or put those insolent brats in their place?

 

[FollowChrist34]

I sincerely hope he doesn’t ignore this disgusting smear against one of his sheep. If somebody was launching vicious attacks against your kids, are you telling me you would just ignore it or put those insolent brats in their place?

Yes. I think Francis is smart enough to see what is happening here. If he hasn’t already, I hope he recognizes how nasty, and, yes, dangerous these confrontations are getting in the US (and elsewhere) between the secular progressive culture (and their Catholic cohorts) and representatives of the Catholic Church who stand by doctrine. One of his sheep is taking quite a bashing here.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Yes. I think Francis is smart enough to see what is happening here. If he hasn’t already, I hope he recognizes how nasty, and, yes, dangerous these confrontations are getting in the US (and elsewhere) between the secular progressive culture (and their Catholic cohorts) and representatives of the Catholic Church who stand by doctrine. One of his sheep is taking quite a bashing here.

Considering how I have seen how the liberals have bullied and intimidated those who don’t agree with them in this country the last 7 years and have been successful we can’t let them think they can do the same in the Catholic church.

 

[Havard]

I sincerely hope he doesn’t ignore this disgusting smear against one of his sheep. If somebody was launching vicious attacks against your kids, are you telling me you would just ignore it or put those insolent brats in their place?

The Archbishop addressed the letter:

sfarchdiocese.org/docs/default-source/media-items-2015/media-advisory-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-4-15-15.pdf?sfvrsn=6

The Holy Father is free to respond as well, but I don’t think it’s necessary that he does. Not responding to it is a response in itself.

 

[FollowChrist34]

The Archbishop addressed the letter:

sfarchdiocese.org/docs/default-source/media-items-2015/media-advisory-archdiocese-of-san-francisco-4-15-15.pdf?sfvrsn=6

The Holy Father is free to respond as well, but I don’t think it’s necessary that he does. Not responding to it is a response in itself.

I love this guy. They have chosen the wrong man to intimidate. He eats this stuff for breakfast. I do pray for him. And, you, too, hang in there! You are fighting the good fight. Sometimes these things can get a little depressing - don’t let that happen.

 

[sps49]

Why do you believe the first point? Archbishop Cordileone is very loving and pastoral. Cut throught the image of him portrayed by the secular media, and just listen to his actual words. He actually sounds an awful lot like the Holy Father.

Well said.

 

[oneofmany]

This is how it ALWAYS is with Western progressive causes somewhere down the line…

Pick your issue–global warming, so-called gay “marriage”, contraception, abortion, euthanasia, religious freedom, welfare.

One disagrees, one is ignorant, uneducated, a cave man, a racist, bigot, homophobe, backwards, and just has to be an old white male misogynist bent on controlling women and their bodies ready to throw grandma off the cliff with a hatred of the poor.

They learn Alinsky’s, “Rules for Radicals” very well.

 

[PTL]

God bless Archbishop Cordileone!

Please sign this to support if you have not. Please pass the word on…

lifesitenews.com/petitions/i-stand-with-archbishop-cordileone

 

[mdgspencer]

I expect this is just a publicity stunt. They don’t expect the Pope to remove him from office.
Perhaps lying behind this is a move by the PR professional who dissenting Catholics hired to put the archbishop out of the way of their gay and secular agenda. If so, this is one move on his part to see if he he has found an effective device against the archbishop, to pursue more vigorously if he finds that it is. I expect, though, that he has put his greatest hope in finding something in the archbishop’s background to damage or destroy him. The media already had successfully blown up a minor thing into a serious issue, the effort to remove homeless people from the cathedral steps. This in fact may have been an earlier move on the part of this PR professional to damage the archdiocese.

 

[BobCatholic]

Wolves in Sheep’s clothing versus Archbishop “Heart of the Lion”

The Holy Spirit wins.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Check out what is being done in support of Archbishop Cordelione:

That claim from the archdiocese seems to be bolstered by the formation of a group of local Catholics who support Archbishop Cordileone, whose website and inaugural event were both announced today on the heels of the Chronicle ad.

A press release from SFCatholics.org describes the group as “a grassroots movement…formed to defend the Archbishop and show support for his efforts to ensure that teachers in Catholic schools remain faithful to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.”

“These are Catholic schools, built by the Catholic Church, funded and subsidized by the contributions of ordinary Catholics giving their pennies from the pews over the generations, and we have a right to expect when we send our children to Catholic schools, they will be taught vibrant authentic Catholicism,” said Eva Muntean, one of the organizers SFCatholics.org. “The newspaper ad is a slur on a good and decent man who has devoted his life in service to others.”

The group is organizing an “Archbishop Cordileone Support Day Family Picnic,” which will take place on May 16 at San Francisco’s Little Marina Green. The event will include games, a bouncy house, and live entertainment, as well as opportunities for participants to write notes or record video messages of support and encouragement for the archbishop.

catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3816/san_francisco_catholics_speak_out_forand_againstabp_cordileone.aspx

 

[Tigg]

I have two views on this:

 1.   Papa Francis woild have never assigned AB Cordeleone to SF.

 2.   Papa Francis will not move the AB.

 :cool:

I find your first statement rather uncomplimentary to the Holy Father since this Archbishop is just doing his job in a difficult situation.

 

[gilliam]

I doubt that the Holy Father reads the San Francisco Chronicle. It’s just another pressure group trying to get its way.

I think it is aimed at parents in the area who either are or are considering sending their children to Catholic schools; and locals who donate to the archdiocese. I doubt anyone seriously thinks the Pope will react to a paid ad in a SF newspaper.

 

[Seamus_L]

It’s probably the latest Sam Singer publicity stunt. I expect we’ll be seeing lot’s more in the coming months.

 

[JimG]

It’s probably the latest Sam Singer publicity stunt. I expect we’ll be seeing lot’s more in the coming months.

Sam Singer is a very well paid and able public relations person. Someone is paying him big bucks to put the squeeze on the archbishop, and they will be sure to get their money’s worth.

The campaign will try to convince Catholic school parents that it is an outrage to teach Catholic morals to Catholic school students. But that’s just part of it. No effort will be spared to smear this archbishop.

 

[St_Pancake]

There is a lot wrong with the full page ad but I wonder about some of those that signed on. Do you wonder how many added their name because it is the popular thing to do? How many of these so called, “prominent” Catholics actually understood the facts? Regardless, if they have a problem with the Church, unless they are planning to leave, this is exactly what you don’t do.

Embarrassing the clergy is not the way to accomplish your goal in the Church. There will be those among you that will say they didn’t embarrass the clergy but that would assume that the general public knows anymore about the situation than is in the add or the article about it.

In the current political climate, if you depict homosexual activity as anything other than sunlight (and rainbows of course), you shall feel the wrath of the secular world upon you. Acceptance and admiration of those that are involved in such is all that can be tolerated. It doesn’t matter if your religion labels such a sin. You shall do nothing but tolerate and praise.

The actions of some do embarrass others of us at times. This Archbishop’s desire to stick to Catholic (and God’s) doctrine embarrasses many. This full page advertisement, against the Archbishop, embarrasses us that accept Church (and God’s) teaching. It’s my belief that I should support God in all of this and not the doctrines of the church of political correctness.

 

[McCall1981]

Here’s a letter from Robert George urging the Pope to “quietly” show support for Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone. I highly doubt the Pope or Vatican would ever respond publicly to any of this, but still this is nice to read:

firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2015/04/a-letter-to-pope-francis

 

[FollowChrist34]

There is a lot wrong with the full page ad but I wonder about some of those that signed on. Do you wonder how many added their name because it is the popular thing to do? How many of these so called, “prominent” Catholics actually understood the facts? Regardless, if they have a problem with the Church, unless they are planning to leave, this is exactly what you don’t do.

Embarrassing the clergy is not the way to accomplish your goal in the Church. There will be those among you that will say they didn’t embarrass the clergy but that would assume that the general public knows anymore about the situation than is in the add or the article about it.

In the current political climate, if you depict homosexual activity as anything other than sunlight (and rainbows of course), you shall feel the wrath of the secular world upon you. Acceptance and admiration of those that are involved in such is all that can be tolerated. It doesn’t matter if your religion labels such a sin. You shall do nothing but tolerate and praise.

The actions of some do embarrass others of us at times. This Archbishop’s desire to stick to Catholic (and God’s) doctrine embarrasses many. This full page advertisement, against the Archbishop, embarrasses us that accept Church (and God’s) teaching. It’s my belief that I should support God in all of this and not the doctrines of the church of political correctness.

Now, now, it’s all done in the name of tolerance and charity. Are you missing that part?

 

[SMGS127]

Honestly, I agree that Archbishop Cordileone was inappropriate for the SF area. He would fit a fullthroated conservative area quite well, but he is not very skilled at evangelization, which is what is needed in the SF area.

That being said, I agree with kozlosap that while I believe Pope Francis would have never appointed him there, he will also not remove him, as it would issue the wrong message.

If someone needs a specific example of why Archbishop Cordileone is a bad fit for SF, a good example is his refusal to recognize an orthodox gay or lesbian Catholic group because they refused to stop using the words “gay” and “lesbian.”

ncronline.org/news/spirituality/gay-ministry-group-refuses-sign-oath

Another example is how he declined calls to step down from a parade that was organized and participated in by anti-gay hate groups.

sfgate.com/lgbt/article/S-F-archbishop-March-for-Marriage-is-not-5557050.php

These actions just make gay people feel unwelcome in the Church, which should be a non-starter for an archbishop for San Francisco.

Edit: I want to make clear I am not attacking his character. I am sure he means well for all his parishioners (and all San Franciscans). But his strategies are not a good fit for San Francisco; they are isolating.

 

[JimG]

There is a lot wrong with the full page ad but I wonder about some of those that signed on. Do you wonder how many added their name because it is the popular thing to do? How many of these so called, “prominent” Catholics actually understood the facts? Regardless, if they have a problem with the Church, unless they are planning to leave, this is exactly what you don’t do.

It could be that some of them were pressured by Mr. Sam Singer to sign the ad.