PROOF: Liberalism is a sin AND a mental disorder

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"Liberalism Is A Sin" - by Fr. Felix Sarda Salvany

THIS BOOK WAS OFFICIALLY APPROVED BY ROME!

You may read it online here:
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"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - by Dr. Michael Savage

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The thesis certainly makes sense. It explains the irrationality of it and the refusal of most adherents to take any kind of evidence outside their “feelings” seriously. Since homosexual lust is a disorder I suppose liberalism would be a disorder as well.

Dan L
 
I read the definition of liberalism by Fr. Felix Sarda Salvany in Chapter 2. So-defined, I have to agree with his conclusion that it is a sin.
 
Rome has said it, and it is so. Yet, people will continue to argue. Pride is humanity’s favorite sin.
 
I guess it depends on how you define Liberalism. Most people who are “liberals” are not liberals at all. They are nihilists. The proper definition of Liberal would be closer to what we now call conservative.

Can someone post the definition given by Fr. Salvany?
 
Wow. Thank you. First because seriously interested in Catholicism when I stumbled upon Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Quod Apostolici Muneris (On Socialism). My reaction was “Why did we never read this in college?” We sure got the other side–Rousseau, Hegel, Marx, Kant, Nietzsche, Freud, Jung, Maslow, Sartre etc.

This certainly adds to what Leo XIII wrote.
 
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Ham1:
Can someone post the definition given by Fr. Salvany?
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Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:
  1. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God’s authority.
  2. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself.
  3. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.
  4. Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press.
 
Dr. Colossus:
Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:
  1. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God’s authority.
  2. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself.
  3. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.
  4. Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press.
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Exactly what modern days liberals believe.
 
Blast this sounds like an interesting read. I wonder if our library would ever get this 😃
 
Dr. Colossus:
Everyone did notice that there’s a copy of the book online, right?
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No, I did not know this, but thanks for giving us a link
 
This is a tempest in a teapot. If there is going to be a judgement day, then as a matter of justice there has to be free will because a person can’t be judged for something over which he had no control. If there is free will, some will not agree with the Church. There has never been a day when everyone on earth agreed with the Church. If the author wants to call them mentally ill and sinful, he has the right to his opinion.
 
Dr. Colossus:
Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:
  1. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God’s authority.
  2. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself.
  3. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.
  4. Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press.
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The article on “Liberalism” in the Catholic Encyclopedia knows of other definitions.​

Calling something a mental disorder is too convenient: it relieves one of having to understand the other fellow’s point of view. And it also sounds eerily similar to the Soviet practice of treating religion as a mental affliction.

Why it is necessary to take other people’s POVs seriously - apart from good manners:

barking-moonbat.com/God_in_the_Dock.html

His task is easier because of a flaw in his approach: he does not look at different types of liberalism, but treats the least Christian as the only or the typical one. This is the fallacy of “the undistributed middle”; and is common in books of controversy. ##
 
Dr. Colossus:
Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:
  1. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God’s authority.
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Provided, of course, the individual isn’t a conservative.
Dr. Colossus:
  1. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself.
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Provided the society does what Liberals think it should do.
Dr. Colossus:
  1. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.
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As long as they make the “right” kind of laws. Laws which prohibit killing the unborn are of course not on, no matter how many people support them.
Dr. Colossus:
  1. Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press.
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But only for Liberals, liberal thought and liberal press.
 
Wasn’t G.K. Chesterton a self-described Liberal? And yet he’s hailed as one of, if not the, greatest Catholic Apologetic of the twentieth century. I think there are differant sorts of ‘Liberalism’. The word can have a variety of meanings.
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David_Paul:
First because seriously interested in Catholicism when I stumbled upon Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Quod Apostolici Muneris (On Socialism).
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If you liked that, you should try reading his
Rerum Novarum which proposes to solve the evils of industry’s exploitation of the working classes. I think this Encyclical applies especially poignantly to our current age of Corporate domination. The Church has traditionally championed the causes of the common man against both Big Business and Big Government; two of the evils espoused by Capitalism and Socialism, respectively.
 
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Neithan:
Wasn’t G.K. Chesterton a self-described Liberal? And yet he’s hailed as one of, if not the, greatest Catholic Apologetic of the twentieth century. I think there are differant sorts of ‘Liberalism’. The word can have a variety of meanings.

If you liked that, you should try reading his
Rerum Novarum which proposes to solve the evils of industry’s exploitation of the working classes. I think this Encyclical applies especially poignantly to our current age of Corporate domination. The Church has traditionally championed the causes of the common man against both Big Business and Big Government; two of the evils espoused by Capitalism and Socialism, respectively.
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Chesterton was a classic liberal – which is to say, a modern conservative. He believed in the dignity of the individual and also in responsibility.
 
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GregoryPalamas:
The thesis certainly makes sense. It explains the irrationality of it and the refusal of most adherents to take any kind of evidence outside their “feelings” seriously. Since homosexual lust is a disorder I suppose liberalism would be a disorder as well.

Dan L
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An atheist could just as easily say that religious thought exists entirely within our feelings. ie, that God is a creation we’ve invented to fill some void in our minds, to provide meaning for us etc. This is what’s said to me all the time. “Well who made God then?” is also pretty common. It’s all a bit petty really, you’re not going to convince liberals or any other non christians of anything with ‘rational’ arguments.

Not read this, but it sounds like the resentfull ramblings typified by those who want to force biblical laws onto the whole of society.
 
what passes for liberalism today is not liberalism. It is LeftWingWackoism.

True liberals are libertarians.
 
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BobCatholic:
what passes for liberalism today is not liberalism. It is LeftWingWackoism.

True liberals are libertarians.
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I just wish libertarians had a snowball’s chance of gaining any political power whatsoever any time soon. What do they come in, about fifth place behind the communist party?

Alan
 
Libertarians are morally liberal aswell: they don’t accept any authoritarian moral codes in law. The individual has the right to live their personal lives exactly a they wish, as long as it doesn’t interfere with others rights to do the same. Economically it’s a case of ‘survival of the fittest’. No tax to pay, completely privatised health and education… so depending on how right wing you are you might agree with this side of it.
 
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