PROOF: Liberalism is a sin AND a mental disorder

[vern_humphrey]

feather:

In answer to your question “No”.

Excuse me, that is two negatives and could be misread.

Hitler most certainly committed a grevious and evil act, in my opinion, in judging and killing a multitude of people.

Hitler KILLED them – there was no “judging.” Hitler, himself a hater of Jews, cynically played on the anti-Semitism of the German people to gain power.

Now, if it were happening today, would you stand by and watch it happen, saying, “Well, it SEEMS pretty bloody, but who am I to judge?”

 

[BobCatholic]

feather:

He KILLED them because he JUDGED them unfit which isn’t too far from mentally disordered.

Just as liberals KILL unborn children because they judge them unfit for human rights.

or those who are unable to speak for themselves (like Terri Schiavo) because they’re not considered human by them…

Oh yeah, I hear goose stepping. And it is not coming from the RIGHT.

 

[cathologos]

I read the thread title, and decided to open the thread…

I didn’t bother to read the posts, though. I can just imagine what they’re like…

Does anybody here really find it useful to condemn whole populations of people, without the slightest thought or consideration of them as individuals?

I’ve read enough on this forum to know that if you don’t support US foreign military interventions, if you don’t support large federal tax cuts (notwithstanding massive deficits), if you don’t support George W. Bush…well, you are a “liberal,” notwithstanding your views on a host of other issues.

It used to be just a “dirty word” – liberal – that was used to insult and ridicule without the need for any honest thought. Now it’s even better – liberals are sinners (of course, so are the rest of us!), and, even better than that, mentally disordered.

Do I detect just a smidgen of hatred in this kind of attack?

 

[vern_humphrey]

cathologos:

I read the thread title, and decided to open the thread…

I didn’t bother to read the posts, though. I can just imagine what they’re like…

And you’re willing to condemn everyone else based on your imagination?

 

[cynic]

cathologos:

I read the thread title, and decided to open the thread…

I didn’t bother to read the posts, though. I can just imagine what they’re like…

Does anybody here really find it useful to condemn whole populations of people, without the slightest thought or consideration of them as individuals?

I’ve read enough on this forum to know that if you don’t support US foreign military interventions, if you don’t support large federal tax cuts (notwithstanding massive deficits), if you don’t support George W. Bush…well, you are a “liberal,” notwithstanding your views on a host of other issues.

It used to be just a “dirty word” – liberal – that was used to insult and ridicule without the need for any honest thought. Now it’s even better – liberals are sinners (of course, so are the rest of us!), and, even better than that, mentally disordered.

Do I detect just a smidgen of hatred in this kind of attack?

I agree, it’s a self serving label for those on the far right who can’t stand being contradicted on ANYTHING. You can have pro-life, pro-family, anti-homosexuality moral views, but if you don’t agree with big tax cuts for the rich you’re a ‘liberal’. Priceless.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

cathologos:

I read the thread title, and decided to open the thread…

I didn’t bother to read the posts, though. I can just imagine what they’re like…

Your comments illustrate a good point. Liberals tend to react emotionally without checking the facts. This is part of the mental disorder we’re talking about. Look at the headline, make up a story which sufficiently demonizes the opposition, and react on that.

Does anybody here really find it useful to condemn whole populations of people, without the slightest thought or consideration of them as individuals?

There is a huge difference between observing that some people have a mental disorder and condemning them.

Many people have this problem, in that they associate “mental disorder” with “morally corrupt.” Mental disorders are classified by behavioral symptoms, and say nothing about a person’s morals or intelligence. Nobody said liberals are not intelligent. Highly intelligent people can have mental disorders, too.

If you think that having a mental disorder is tantamount to being condemned, then I agree with you in that you have demonstrated condemnation of a whole group based on

I’ve read enough on this forum to know that if you don’t support US foreign military interventions, if you don’t support large federal tax cuts (notwithstanding massive deficits), if you don’t support George W. Bush…well, you are a “liberal,” notwithstanding your views on a host of other issues.

It used to be just a “dirty word” – liberal – that was used to insult and ridicule without the need for any honest thought. Now it’s even better – liberals are sinners (of course, so are the rest of us!), and, even better than that, mentally disordered.

Do I detect just a smidgen of hatred in this kind of attack?

No, I don’t detect so much hatred as a misunderstanding of mental illness in your comments. What may appear to be hatred, I take as your attempt at sorting out what you really think about this matter.

In asserting that being mentally disordered is worse than being a sinner, it does sound like hatred, and it does sound like you are judging me and others like me. I am used to it, though, because very few people who have not required psychiatric care really understand. Hey, as a bona fide mental patient, I recognize warped thinking for what it is – I do not condemn others with such ostensibly idealistic views. That is, it takes one to know one.

Alan

 

[Tyler_Smedley]

cynic:

I agree, it’s a self serving label for those on the far right who can’t stand being contradicted on ANYTHING. You can have pro-life, pro-family, anti-homosexuality moral views, but if you don’t agree with big tax cuts for the rich you’re a ‘liberal’. Priceless.

Nice that the Far-left is so understanding and accepting of differing beliefs, and in such defense of the causes of the pro-life movement. Wait who did Planned Parenthood support…wait that was the left…oops…

 

[BobCatholic]

cathologos:

Does anybody here really find it useful to condemn whole populations of people, without the slightest thought or consideration of them as individuals?

Nice try.

Liberalism is condemned, not the liberals.

The ACTIONS are condemned, the belief system is condemned.

Nice job on confusing the disorder with the poor people having the disorder!

Liberals are the victims of this mental disorder. We should pray for them.

 

[BobCatholic]

Tyler Smedley:

Nice that the Far-left is so understanding and accepting of differing beliefs, and in such defense of the causes of the pro-life movement. Wait who did Planned Parenthood support…wait that was the left…oops…

Just proof that the far left is cold-hearted - they hate the unborn, conservatives, serious Catholics, serious protestants, and basically anyone who disagrees with them.

 

[fix]

feather:

He KILLED them because he JUDGED them unfit which isn’t too far from mentally disordered.

His judgement was wrong, not all judging is wrong. In fact, I am judging that his judgement was wrong. Can you judge if my judgement was wrong? Oops, that would be a judgement. Confused? Round and round we go…

 

[fix]

cathologos:

I read the thread title, and decided to open the thread…

I didn’t bother to read the posts, though. I can just imagine what they’re like…

Does anybody here really find it useful to condemn whole populations of people, without the slightest thought or consideration of them as individuals?

Liberalism, as defined by the Catholic Church, is a sin. The Church defines sin. She is not condeming sinners, only pointing out errors.

The other book, which I have not read, seems to be saying liberalism, as the author defines it, may be a psychiatric condition. He intends that to mean some manner of imbalance, perhaps chemical imbalance.

 

[Lisa_N]

I occasionally listen to Savage and I’ve read his previous books. His schtick is to be outrageous. FWIW before someone decides he’s a knuckledragging mouth breather, he’s extremely intelligent and well educated. The ‘liberalism is a mental disorder’ is just part of his schtick. It will sell books.

Lisa N

 

[fix]

Lisa N:

I occasionally listen to Savage and I’ve read his previous books. His schtick is to be outrageous. FWIW before someone decides he’s a knuckledragging mouth breather, he’s extremely intelligent and well educated. The ‘liberalism is a mental disorder’ is just part of his schtick. It will sell books.

Lisa N

If you go to free republic and search Savage’s name you can read a hit piece from Salon.com that was posted without registering at Salon. The piece is really mean, but I did pick up some insight into Savage. I do not trust it all, but it was an interesting read.

I listen to Savage at times. He is no dummy. He is a showman, but his points are based in truth many times.

 

[cynic]

Tyler Smedley:

Nice that the Far-left is so understanding and accepting of differing beliefs, and in such defense of the causes of the pro-life movement. Wait who did Planned Parenthood support…wait that was the left…oops…

each side labels the other, each claims to be oppressed by other. All I’m saying is that there is room for christians to have a variety of opinions on many non moral/non spiritual matters such as the economy, tax, welfare, eduaction, that sort of thing. Though from the sound of some here anyone who differs from THEIR point of view on any of these issues is a liberal.

 

[Lisa_N]

cynic:

Though from the sound of some here anyone who differs from THEIR point of view on any of these issues is a liberal.

That would make sense if one were a conservative.

Lisa N

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Lisa N:

That would make sense if one were a conservative.

Lisa N

Dear Lisa N,

Your logic is simple, accurate, and to the point.

Gosh, you wouldn’t happen to be a conservative, would you?

Alan