Catholic schools around the country, both upper and lower school teach evolution with God as its beginning both in science class and in theology. After 12 years of Catholic school, plus church, plus my parents teachings nothing I learned in college was going to have any affect on my beliefs. Maybe parents should do a better jobs of raising their children long before they go off to college.So, if a student notices a bias or false/philosophical conclusions coming from their science teacher, how does critical thinking turn into action?
There are about a million parents homeschooling their kids. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Obviously, they do not trust the system anymore.
- Do nothing. It’s just for your personal use.
- Politely confront the instructor and point out the problems?
- Tell all the students in class that he has been telling them biased/inaccurate/incomplete information. No need to bother the instructor.
- Present your case to the proper school administrator?
Peace,
Ed
This is not relevant. We are not talking about something that has been infallibly declared and science is contradicting it.Interesting that Father Spitzer who has unbelievable academic credentials earned at magnum cum laude levels has a piece that explores the “poured out for many / all” question of salvation, and comes up with the conclusion of “all”, to the contradiction of the change in Mass liturgy to “many” as a correction to “all”.
Poured Out For Many
It is a perfect example of the need for an infallible Pope with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. A critical thinker would say that it is an obvious example of the Pope’s fallibility in the face of the critical thinking of Fr. Spitzer. It’s all a matter of perspective. I take the word of Jesus that puts the chair of Peter on a Rock solid basis, despite the fact that Peter has met his Peter Principle.
They would need to take the action that they feel is appropriate.So, if a student notices a bias or false/philosophical conclusions coming from their science teacher, how does critical thinking turn into action?
There are about a million parents homeschooling their kids. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Obviously, they do not trust the system anymore.
- Do nothing. It’s just for your personal use.
- Politely confront the instructor and point out the problems?
- Tell all the students in class that he has been telling them biased/inaccurate/incomplete information. No need to bother the instructor.
- Present your case to the proper school administrator?
Peace,
Ed
Darn it. My Nonsense Meter just blew up. Gotta get another one. I never liked mantras.Different subject that we can’t get into detail about here, but no, it really doesn’t have a ton of problems, nor does it create problems. And it’s not a dirty word. Just say it. Evolution. Evolution. Eeevvvvooollluuutttiiiooonnn.
And that’s why about a million parents are homeschooling. And it’s not just my opinion.Catholic schools around the country, both upper and lower school teach evolution with God as its beginning both in science class and in theology. After 12 years of Catholic school, plus church, plus my parents teachings nothing I learned in college was going to have any affect on my beliefs. Maybe parents should do a better jobs of raising their children long before they go off to college.
And you know that that’s the reason for all of those millions of home-school parents how, exactly? I mean, you certainly didn’t interview them all.And that’s why about a million parents are homeschooling. And it’s not just my opinion.
patrickmadrid.com/if-you-dont-want-your-children-to-lose-their-catholic-faith-in-college-watch-this/
They are certainly dissatisfied with something. Now what do you suppose thatcould be?And you know that that’s the reason for all of those millions of home-school parents how, exactly? I mean, you certainly didn’t interview them all.
There’s a thousand reasons to home school, and I don’t plan to make broad assumptions about the reason why. If I were going to home school my kids, it would be because Catholic education is atrocious even in Catholic schools and I want them to have a strong foundation in the faith - the very reason all my friends that were home schooled were.They are certainly dissatisfied with something. Now what do you suppose thatcould be?
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It is no secret that many young students ( and the innocent in the general public ) are loosing their faith because of indoctrination by intellectual " superiors " at High School, College, or University. Your child’s faith is being destroyed by the Pied Pipers of a pseudo science by which they try to convince your child God does not exist and all religion is worse than foolishness.
If you doubt my word just start reading almost any thread in the Philosophy forum and you will see the kind of nonsense that is leading your child and perhaps yourself astray.
How do you protect your child, how do you protect yourself against this aggresive lie ?
I would suggest you take a look at the Magis Center of Reason and Faith and see some of the resources that can help. magisreasonfaith.org/free_dvd.html
While it is true that this pseudo scinece/philosophy is pure nonsense, it cannot be ignored because the practioners are extremely clever. They deserve to be hooted out of town. And in a sane, rational society they would be. But today we no longer live in a sane, rational society. So prepare yourself. It is not necessary that you argue with these people because they are the most expert Sophists that ever existed. But it is necessary to understand the foolishness upon which they stand. That way you and your children can just ignore them and quitely lead a life of reason and faith.
Linus2nd
This is a Catholic forum. Please do not bash the faith here or assume what other people want.You don’t want your children learning science in school?
Would you rather they grow up believing in adm and eve, that they all lived to be 900 years old, that every species of animal on the planet walked to Nohas house, that this earth is 500 years old (when we have proof its a bit older)?
you basically want your kids minds stuck in the dark ages? What kind of future will they have?
Listen, you do not need to ignore the truth to keep your faith. You can still know that a lot of our faith is malarky… and still belive in a higher power. Please don’t make your children ignorant just to preserve what we all know is information from the dark ages. Your kids won’t get very far in this world beliving the earth is flat.
The question is not whether or not to home school. Besides, you don’t have that option in higher education. Although you may be able to take some online courses, you won’t be able to do the full course of study that way.If students don’t learn the basics of science in school, then they will not have the essential knowledge to be able to apply in those other areas [that have been placed off limits here, which is fine with me.]
But students cannot debate and discuss those other areas unless they have the basic scientific knowledge building blocks, some of which I listed in my previous post just above.
Parents have the obligation to monitor their children’s education.The question is not whether or not to home school. Besides, you don’t have that option in higher education. Although you may be able to take some online courses, you won’t be able to do the full course of study that way.
The object of the O.P. was to provide parents with some sources to help their children deal with some of the intellectual challenges to their faith they may encounter in the college/university setting, in class and out of class. I specifically had in mind certain ideas floating around in cosmology which some have used to question many doctrines of the Catholic faith.
But at the same time I recognize that it is not just in the area of cosmology that problems can arise. One can encounter them in any intellectual subject. And of course one also sees problems in grammar school.
The idea is that parents can use some of the resources I have pointed out to help prepare their children to face these problems.
Linus2nd
Yes, I agree with everything you say. However, it is good to be able to answer objections raised by those who will not, for the present, accept any response based on Revelation based Faith. And these folks are very clever, they will say to your child, " …you can’t prove that. " And then they will proceed very cleverly to prove that the existence of God cannot be proven, that the universe doesn’t need a creator, that man has no spirit/soul destined to live forever after death, united with a resurrected body, and on and on.Parents have the obligation to monitor their children’s education.
If something is lacking, then the parents can seek out appropriate supplements.
In higher education, parents and students certainly DO have the option to get the courses they want … through the option of selecting electives and majors. AND through outside study.
It’s not a situation where you pays your money and you settle for what they give you … take your chances.
If a parent is concerned about their children not having been properly prepared in Catholic religious education, then the parents need to address that through their parish/diocesan religious education program … and through supplemental home study when the children are still living at home.
[Sadly, some parents didn’t get an adequate grounding in the basics of Catholicism themselves … WHICH, I would point out was one of the reasons for the founding of Catholic Answers … to give adult Catholics some of the facts they might have missed out on in their own education. I would suggest as a starter, a reading of the Catholic Answers Tracts … which were the first written documents prepared by Karl Keating, and then by a reading of Catholicism and Fundamentalism, which started out as a series of essays and which were later turned into a book.]
Getting some grounding in the basics of the tenets of the Catholic faith is a life-long study process … not best done by osmosis [a claim made by some] … or by stopping reading after Confirmation.
My opinion on the circumstantial evidence.TWO EXAMPLES
cnsnews.com/blog/l-brent-bozell-iii/gay-and-godless-public-school-stage
Gay and Godless on the Public-School Stage
By L. Brent Bozell III
clashdaily.com/2013/03/university-apologizes-for-stomping-on-jesus-assignment/
University Apologizes for “Stomping on Jesus” Assignment
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