Protestant Persecution of Catholics

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Protestant Persecutions of catholics following the Reformation is largely if not completely quiet and non existent on the internet google. Can anyone help me find links to sources where it shows specific instances of Persecution of Catholics at the hands of Protestants in those days following the Reformation? I know there are many, but again, the internet gives me nothing. :confused:
 
I googled “protestant persecution of catholics” and found 1,460,000 results.
 
try adding in terms like “UK” “Scotland” or “Ireland”

That is where a lot of serious “battles” go down across sides.
 
bzkoss236 said:
try adding in terms like “UK” “Scotland” or “Ireland”

That is where a lot of serious “battles” go down across sides.
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I know it goes on both sides, but the internet seems to focus on ONE…US… :mad:
 
Remember Catholics also had their fair share of murdering protestants
your not being oppressed right now
 
try the 13 American colonies during the revolution, before and after, too. Maryland was the only safe colony and then state, for Catholics to settle in. That didn’t last long - puritans basically sent some priests away!

Of course, that won’t be in a secular US history book, you have to get one from a Catholic high school like my dad’s oldest sister, who is a religious sister who taught religion class at my old high school until a year ago when she retired. She gave a bunch of us the old religion text book so we could learn a little about church history, especially in the USA.
 
Why are we trying to relive the past and bring up upbringings of the terribleness that the 2 groups did to each other

Pray to god for reconciliation and healing and unity instead

God Bless you all
 
bzkoss236 said:
try adding in terms like “UK” “Scotland” or “Ireland”

That is where a lot of serious “battles” go down across sides.
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Maybe you can help me out with some LINKS PLEASE? I still am unable to find anything…🤷
 
RomanCatholic66 said:
Maybe you can help me out with some LINKS PLEASE? I still am unable to find anything…🤷
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Why is it so important to point out the bloodshed protestants did to catholics and ignore the other

Just Search Persecution of catholics by protestants and you get plenty of results
 
being a protestant-catholic, friction between “sides” really makes me mad. if we could treat each other with respect and love, so many misconceptions could be eradicated. I see Protestants persecuting Catholics and Catholics persecuting Protestants all the time (although it varies from church to church). We get a very small view of how the other denomination works- for instance, I almost left the Catholic church because of how my parish talked about protestants. It felt like having my father tell me my mother is wrong and bad, but I realized that this was just my parish, that all catholics aren’t persecuting protestants. I go to a great Methodist church, where the majority of the people are very open to the fact that I am also Catholic. In many places these roles are flipped. But it makes me sad that what is supposed to be the body of Christ is essentially fighting itself. I feel like a child of divorced parents…
 
brandonjennings said:
Why is it so important to point out the bloodshed protestants did to catholics and ignore the other
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The OP didn’t say he (or she) was ignoring one side over the other. But there are books available on the Catholic persecution of Protestants. Foxes Book of Martyrs is one such. Accuracy in history is important. That may mean looking up some bad stuff.

I’m not well versed in the early days of Protesant persecution of Catholics (and the severity differed at times) but I know a bit more about the anti-Catholic persecution in the late 1800s & early 1900s in this country. Weird stuff going on then - at least 1 convent burned, Catholic churches damaged, slanderous writings. It wasn’t easy being Catholic in those days!
 
sleepysheep25 said:
being a protestant-catholic, friction between “sides” really makes me mad. if we could treat each other with respect and love, so many misconceptions could be eradicated. I see Protestants persecuting Catholics and Catholics persecuting Protestants all the time (although it varies from church to church). We get a very small view of how the other denomination works- for instance, I almost left the Catholic church because of how my parish talked about protestants. It felt like having my father tell me my mother is wrong and bad, but I realized that this was just my parish, that all catholics aren’t persecuting protestants. I go to a great Methodist church, where the majority of the people are very open to the fact that I am also Catholic. In many places these roles are flipped. But it makes me sad that what is supposed to be the body of Christ is essentially fighting itself. I feel like a child of divorced parents…
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I know this is off topic but would you be comfortable clarifying what you mean by being protestant-catholic? If you are confirmed in the Catholic Church I hope you are attending Mass every weekend and holy day of obligation. If you are skipping Mass to go to a protestant service, you are inviting mortal sin on yourself. God calls you to His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Man calls you to protestantism. The choice ought to be obvious (if you truly understand Catholicism that is) I guess I’m just confused by your stance. Saint John Cardinal Henry Newman once said, “To be deep in history is to cease being protestant”.
 
sleepysheep25 said:
. It felt like having my father tell me my mother is wrong and bad, but I realized that this was just my parish, that all catholics aren’t persecuting protestants…
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When you say “persecution”, I think that you mean “speaking against”. I believe that the thread starter is using the word “persecution” to mean things like imprisonment, torture, exile, and death. Catholics, especially priests, were tortured to death with unimaginable cruelty. Margaret Clithrow, early American, was crushed with stones because she would not attend Protestant services.

The Catholic Encyclopedia is one source of information (www.newadvent.org) . For example, under the heading “Maryland,” it mentions that in some of the early laws in America, if a Protestant widow remarried a Catholic man, the state could take away her children and put them in another Protestant family. Catholics were taxed at a higher rate. England had a “no return policy” for priests who had left their country, and sometimes priests in the American colonies were kidnapped and returned to England to face death.
Bonnie said:
But there are books available on the Catholic persecution of Protestants. Foxes Book of Martyrs is one such.
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It has been a while since I read Foxe’s. I thought that mainly mentioned Protestant martyrs and was more or less silent on Catholic ones? At one time I looked up the Queens Mary and Elizabeth: there were lots of results under Mary (a Catholic), and I didn’t see any under Elizabeth (she declared England a Protestant nation). I’m not a history buff, but other sources record a much bloodier Elizabethan era.
 
RomanCatholic66 said:
Protestant Persecutions of catholics following the Reformation is largely if not completely quiet and non existent on the internet google. Can anyone help me find links to sources where it shows specific instances of Persecution of Catholics at the hands of Protestants in those days following the Reformation? I know there are many, but again, the internet gives me nothing. :confused:
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Here’s a link to two volume book by Bishop Challoner, the translator of the D/R Bible. It is eye witness accounts. It is pretty grisly, and I couldn’t get through the whole book myself.
 
We killed each other.

Brother against brother we Cain and Abeled each other. Even now we hate on each other in our churches. What should we discuss besides how so much hate and evil entered our hearts?
 
RomanCatholic66 said:
Protestant Persecutions of catholics following the Reformation is largely if not completely quiet and non existent on the internet google. Can anyone help me find links to sources where it shows specific instances of Persecution of Catholics at the hands of Protestants in those days following the Reformation? I know there are many, but again, the internet gives me nothing. :confused:
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Don’t forget the Nativist and know-Nothing movements in America. John Tracy Ellis, the distinguished American Church historian notes that in the English colonies “Catholics existed through a century and a half as an insignificant minority in a state of practical outlawry.” (Ellis, 41) The continuation of this anti-Catholic tradition, fueled by fundamentalist-like rhetoric from the pulpit (Marsden, 66-7) and fear over increasing numbers of immigrants and fanned into flames by the Nativist and Know Nothing movements, resulted in dozens of Catholic church burnings, burnings of convents, exclusion of Catholics from good jobs, and public mockery of their religion. (Hamburger, 216-17)

The situation was such that in 1855 when Abraham Lincoln was asked about his political views by a friend he responded with the following direct quote:
“I am not a Know Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can anyone who abhors oppression of negros, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that ‘all men are created equal.’ We now practically read it, ‘all men are created equal, except negros.’ When the Know Nothings get control, it will read, ‘all men are created equal, except negros, and foreigners, and catholics.’ When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense at loving liberty–to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrasy [sic].” (Basler, II, 323)

One can view and read further in the listings below.

. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1969American Catholicism

. NY: Oxford University Press, 1980Fundamentalism and American Culture

. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 2002Separation of Church And State

. New Brunswick, 1953The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln
 
jediliz said:
try the 13 American colonies during the revolution, before and after, too. Maryland was the only safe colony and then state, for Catholics to settle in. That didn’t last long - puritans basically sent some priests away!

Of course, that won’t be in a secular US history book, you have to get one from a Catholic high school like my dad’s oldest sister, who is a religious sister who taught religion class at my old high school until a year ago when she retired. She gave a bunch of us the old religion text book so we could learn a little about church history, especially in the USA.
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I believe Catholics were welcome in Pa under William Penn

Jon
 
brandonjennings said:
Why are we trying to relive the past and bring up upbringings of the terribleness that the 2 groups did to each other

Pray to god for reconciliation and healing and unity instead

God Bless you all
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“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Sir Winston Churchill
 
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