Protestant women and contraceptives, my weird jealousy?

  • Thread starter Thread starter MarthaSo
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Thank you for understanding. I will hold onto this advice and appreciate it greatly.
A part of me consoled myself with this but then ofcourse I got anxious thinking about having to endure again and not even being able to stay home to raise them. Heart wrenching, I’ve done it twice already.
 
MarthaSo said:
Something sounds off here in my thinking I feel but I can’t p(name removed by moderator)oint it.
Click to expand...
All I’m reading is jealousy. The thing is, unplanned pregnancies can happen with other forms of birth control. Now, I think it sematics to not call NFP birth control that is approved by the Catholic Church. If you’re TTA, the medical community would call it birth control. The only reason to semantically deny that is to argument semantics to seem to make a valid argument as to why NFP is moral and other contraceptives aren’t when you’re literally saying nothing. A well grounded argument is acknowledging that abstinence is the means of pregnancy prevention in the context of NFP, and that if you were to use barriers or other activities during the fertile window, you’d confess that as “I used artificial contraception during my fertile time X times.” or “a handful of times” or whatever.

Certainly you have a responsibility to your health and to your family. And that does mean that there are just and even grave reasons to avoid pregnancy. It’s just the means in which we pursue that goal which can be immoral (along with the proper attitude toward the procreative potential overall. Responsible parenthood is different from merely asking do you want to be pregnant). Just reasons are morally neutral. Grave reasons are reasons when we are morally obligated to avoid and as such having sex during the fertile time would be an abandonment of the virtue of prudence to a severe degree.

Merely disregarding prudence and focusing ONLY on avoiding immoral means of pregnancy prevention is a way to avoid the moral obligation and to indulge in an attitude that you aren’t called to prudence and responsibility. Indeed, there are times where we simply can’t be perfectly as holy as we should. We are sinners…indeed, slaves to sin. And by denying one sin by declaring another sin not sinful, we end up with a view that distorts our perception of God and His love for us.

And mind you, this isn’t to say that you necessarily are pregnant because you abandoned prudence and sinned. I can’t know that. But don’t assume that another sin would have prevented the pregnancy. Again, unplanned pregnancies happen and so this situation could have happened to you even had you used a different method to avoid that didn’t involve the personal sacrifice of abstinence NFP involves.
 
powerandglory said:
How is it just of the church to demand that I have more children?
Click to expand...
The church does not demand such thing. The church teaches what is better for our lives according to our nature of children of God. And it is not to have the more children the better.
 
I’m sorry I don’t understand this post, I’ll reread later. But yes I meant NFP as a form of birth control.
 
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate it. The only fear of missing out I have is of missing out on raising the children I’ve borne through fidelity to Gods law. It really is painful.
 
MarthaSo said:
Ok. I am inspired by a few women I’ve watched on youtube lately(i’ve had time on my hands lately). Something about their lifestyle, their walk with God, their love of Jesus, the peace in their family.
Click to expand...
i think you should watch Catholic video instead ,most such videos are not in reality but just promoting affiliate marketing,and far from real life circumstances ,they just being positive
 
Granted that may be true in many cases I guess I meant this question for the genuine cases, maybe the ones not on youtube etc.

Also the Catholic women on youtube that I watched, I don’t like their flashy personality to be honest, it’s the protestant ones that seem humble and I’m drawn to, ofcourse this media is just a tiny corner of the population I understand but I like finding inspiring women and those Catholic mommy yourubers do not inspire me, many are all about giveaways and how many subscribers, very worldly. I’m glad they’re there though because I’m sure they help many others get closer to God as I read though comments.
 
Last edited:
Let me make sure I understand, there are women who go on YouTube to brag about how they use contraception and to talk about how holy they are? I just don’t think I’d watch the things. There are many other ways to fill up time.

For me, I watch cosmetic tutorials on YouTube. Helps me develop a skill that lets me feel more confident and beautiful. If a YouTuber is making me feel angst or envy, I shut them off.
 
Wow that’s not at all what I meant. At all. No one bragged about anything nor did they talk about how holy they are.
 
Last edited:
So, how do you know they use contraception and think it is a good thing if they are not bragging about it? How do you know their lives are wonderful if they do not say “my life is so wonderful”?
 
They weren’t bragging nor were they saying their lives were wonderful.
 
I’ll have to recollect my thoughts and reread. Right now I’m sitting on my back porch watching my kids mercilessly attack eachother on scooters and I’ve had A LOT of tiny beers(my husband bought 8oz cans on a desperate day and surrendered them all to me)
  1. I feel you! I really do. I relate to this on several levels that I’ve already forgotten how to express while thumb-typing this post.
  2. Their sincerity is what is appealing about them. You like them. Pray for them, that they may know the fullness of truth and God’s plan for marriage. Pray that they may embrace all the weirdness and suffering and toddlers who hide your beer in the densest of gardens.
 
DisorientingSneeze said:
Right now I’m sitting on my back porch watching my kids mercilessly attack eachother on scooters and I’ve had A LOT of tiny beers(my husband bought 8oz cans on a desperate day and surrendered them all to me)
Click to expand...
One of them is wearing safety goggles. This has got to be a parenting win.
 
lol. Thank you. The peace in their sincerity, while wrong according our faith, is what baffles me. I, with the fullness of truth, must hold on to the anxiety, not peace, that they so easily block by means of birth control while continuing to loveJesus too. I just wonder quite like a 5 year old, in what way does she not have it “better”?.

Enjoy watching your children on the porch, those are precious memories. God bless.
 
It may help to know that there are those that wish (at times) they had the freedom to operate the way Christians do. I live in an area with a large Orthodox Jewish population. There are some things they are not permitted to do that others don’t think twice about, including turning a stove or light on or off between Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, or handling money in that time.
 
Last edited:
Thank you. I do see a similarity, however, the difference in my post is about a choice, unlike turning on a light, that could affect my health for the worst and also a choice to be faithful to Gods laws even while having to hand my children over to strangers to raise while I work. The Jewish example would be more a matter of an inconvenience to me vs a gut wrenching life choice. I do appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut. Thank you.
 
@MarthaSo I am sorry that you are having a difficult pregnancy. Although I don’t have any advice for you, I am sorry you are hurting. I will include you and your unborn baby in my prayers tonight. Hopefully the first time your little baby says, “I love you, Mommy,” this stressful pregnancy will be nothing but a distant memory.
 
That’s so sweet thank you!!! I know I will love this baby like crazy and look forward to meeting my little kickboxer!!! God bless you!
 
Your pregnancy didn’t come from nowhere. God gave you that child, that pregnancy. If NFP “fails,” you can be sure that it was all a part of God’s plan for you and for your children. Trust that he is next to you and that he will provide always, for this and any other children you may bear or have borne.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top