Protestantism is..... pitiful :(

[Karen1960]

I pity those who believe that faith alone will guarantee your salvation. I pity those who live their lives according to one small piece of scripture. I have noticed that these poor lost souls pick the scripture that conveniences their sinfull nature. It’s almost as if they believe that once they are “saved” they have a free pass to do whatever they want and sin however they please and because they are saved they are guaranteed a ticked to heaven simply because they believe. Yes there are a few verses that lean that way and can easily be tailored to say whatever you want them to, as long as they make life easy. Right… I fear for your souls. Take this scripture you ignorant people that believe that faith alone will “save” you. It starts at Matthew 7:21… “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Do you know what an iniquity is? It is an unjust act. If I had a dollar for every protestant who told me they were “saved” and were guaranteed a place in heaven on the day of their death, then went home and committed what us “stupid catholics” consider a mortal sin, I would have a lot of dollars. A LOT. 1Co 6:9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” I know a lot of “saved” protestants that practice a lot of these horrible lifestyles. I know a lot of catholics who do as well. I want to know what the heck people are thinking. How did it come to this? How did everyone become so deceived. Catholics have it tough but protestants apparantly are screwing themselves. Mat 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Get an ALMANAC you ignorant protestants. Or an encycolpedia. You can literally trace the lineage of all the popes ALL THE WAY TO PETER! From the pope we have now all the way back to that guy Jesus said he would build HIS church. Not Martin Luthers… Not Bob the baptist. Not Methead the methodist. Peter the pope, the rock, the foundation for the ONE AND ONLY church that Jesus himself gave us in order to continue the apostolic ministry. It is an apostle’s job to minister to the saints. “Paul said that” Only the saints go STRAIGHT to heaven because to be a saint you have to do the will of God in it’s entirity. “Jesus said that” Everyone else has to wait until the last day or until all of your sins have been consumed by fire.
As for confessing to a priest… Jesus said to do it! Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." The catholic church is a continuance of the apostolic ministry. DUH! Jesus gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Obviously. Look at the gospel. How did you protestants miss that part? It’s in the same book as John 3:16… OH i forgot those apostles are all dead… my bad. Are you calling Jesus a fool? Don’t you think he had enough common sense to know that men will sin until the end of time? Yes he did, so why should the ministry of forgiveness of sins stop with the death of the last apostle? It shouldn’t! That’s why he created the catholic church! To continue that ministry. From Peter to Benedict we are the same church with the same ministry. To withstand the gates of hell. The catholic church will withstand the gates of hell. What does PROTESTant mean? You are protesting that very church! Good luck protestants. You apparantly need it. I will pray for you everyday hoping that Jesus will overlook your ignorance when he comes back to raise the dead. If you wanted to help yourselves out you could embrace his church rather than… PROTEST

As a Southern Roman Catholic who faces daily bigotry constantly, I am offended when a fellow Catholic stoops to this level.
Methead the Methodist is totally uncalled for and very mean.

Jesus taught us Love, He did not teach us to insult one another. By example and love we can help bring our brothers and sisters to The Fullness of His Church, but these methods rarely work and usually backfire

 

[Guyonthestreet]

Why hasn’t this thread been closed?

A previous poster suggested it be left up as an example of catholic charity.

I tend to agree.

 

[BPW75]

Your approach is all wrong and you sound like Mr. T.

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

Departed Light:

What would happen to me if I came in here and did this sort of posting towards Catholics? Calling them ignorant? Pointing at them and decrying them sinners because I merely suspect it of them?

I guess we will find out:
Departed Light:

The most belligerent, prideful, and arrogant people I know are daily communicants in the Catholic Church.

Answering hate filled words with more hate filled words is always a good idea

God bless

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

A previous poster suggested it be left up as an example of catholic charity.

I tend to agree.

This isn’t an example of Catholic charity anymore than the words of Chick and Hunt are examples of Protestant charity. Would it be at all beneficial to post the words of men like this who suggest Catholics are lost and are not Christian?

This is an example of the charity of aarontassin and nobody else.

God bless

 

[Departed_Light]

I guess we will find out:

Answering hate filled words with more hate filled words is always a good idea

God bless

They aren’t hate filled words they are the words from my own personal experience. I find it interesting you pointed this line out and rolled your eyes at me and do not address anything from the OP.

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

They aren’t hate filled words they are the words from my own personal experience. I find it interesting you pointed this line out and rolled your eyes at me and do not address anything from the OP.

I don’t condone what the OP said. I also don’t condone what you said. Both are equally… pitiful.

God bless

 

[Departed_Light]

I don’t condone what the OP said. I also don’t condone what you said. Both are equally… pitiful.

God bless

I agree it is pitiful that anyone that would receive Christ in the Eucharist every day of their life would not be beaming with His love. Would you like to address that or would you like to conitnue to castigate me?

 

[Lizziebel]

May we all strive to be examples of God’s love and charity.

Peace to all.

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

I agree it is pitiful that anyone that would receive Christ in the Eucharist every day of their life would not be beaming with His love. Would you like to address that or would you like to conitnue to castigate me?

Your response was equally as uncharitable and unloving as the OP’s:

first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matt 7:5

God bless

 

[sambos671]

Besides this being a horrible thread. It seems the OP is angry and bitter. I don’t know why but they seem like they are. Note the use of the word “screwed” as in Protestants are “screwed up”. Not an example of Christ. In fact the scriptures teach us not to use vulgar language. Note: Where is the pity for the Catholic who has the sacraments, Scriptures, clergy, reminders of their faith everywhere but live like Devil? They cheat at work, they have premarital affairs or extra marital affairs, or they are drunkards, or killing themselves with smoking (not realizing their bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit). They are ok with both venial and mortal sins. As long as they make it up in the confession booth not realizing they are commiting the sin of presumption. For it is many of these described Catholics that many people are protestant today. Note the scripture used by the OP. He leaves out and important aspect. Where Jesus says to get away, I never knew you. How many Catholics will hear these words. Believing they are ok if they just follow the rules and not have that all important relationship with the Lord. How many Protestants have improved lives for becoming protestant? I assure you many. This OP seems hypocritical and short sited. Many protestants don’t use their faith to justify sin. Many Catholics do. My father for instance married civil outside of the church so when there was a divorse he could accurately say he was never sacramentally married so he can marry again. What kind of behavior is that?
Now there are Catholics who love the lord with all their heart and serve him. There are protestants who do the same. Should it be that we pray these will reconsile and the protestants return to the Chruch in proper fellowship rather than accuse? The devil is named in the scripture. He is Ha Satan. The accusor. To Just accuse people and anticipate their destruction is acting like the devil. How can a christian do this? It shouldn’t be done. So to the OP I say. Take the plank out of your own eye so that you can see better to take the plank out of your brothers.

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

I vote this thread be closed. It doesn’t promote any positive dialog in anyway.

God bless

 

[freedomwriter]

I can understand a Protestant using Ephesians 2:8-9 for Sola Fide, but John 3:16? It horribly rejects it.

Explain how you reject it. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever BELIEVES in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. What does this verse mean to you.

 

[freedomwriter]

A previous poster suggested it be left up as an example of catholic charity.

I tend to agree.

LOL

 

[BrianH]

I should have looked at previous posts before I responded. The OP deals with some issues like being bi-polar they state on another thread. God’s peace to all.

 

[cthulhubryan]

I pity those who believe that faith alone will guarantee your salvation. I pity those who live their lives according to one small piece of scripture. I have noticed that these poor lost souls pick the scripture that conveniences their sinfull nature.

While I agree with you on OSAS, I’ll just say this for now:

If you truly believe this then we protestants do not need you pity but rather your prayers.

 

[aarontassin]

I hope you caught the big picture. I was saying that the bible can’t be looked at verse by verse. It’s gotta be read book by book. It’s obvious that one verse can completely contradict another verse. In that case people tend to pick the easy verse and not pay so much attention to the contradictory one. I’ve been to a lot of protestant bible studies and I’ve noticed that trend. So this is my idea… What if both are correct? That wasn’t a question. I never said God was a liar I simply said there is more than meets the eye when it comes to the bible. I can’t believe that after all I wrote you came to the conclusion that I was calling God a liar.
I was trying to explain one thing and one thing only. That whether protestants like it or not, agree or disagree, believe or don’t believe… The Catholic Church is the only church that has been given the the authority by Jesus to continue the apostolic ministry. A protestant pastor does not have the authority to consecrate a host or continue the ministry of forgiveness of sins. I know this is going to get thrown way out of context because a lot of people are going to get their underwear in a wad before they get any deeper than the surface, but if believing in Jesus was all it takes to go to heaven, then why did he create a church? And why protest it at all if it’s his church? It’s great that protestantism supports the belief in Jesus, but it seems to lack depth. Why stop at faith when you can have faith plus sooo much more? Perhaps because people are lazy? Oh well what do I know…

 

[StrawberryJam]

Maybe you should stop while you are behind.

 

[aarontassin]

Besides this being a horrible thread. It seems the OP is angry and bitter. I don’t know why but they seem like they are. Note the use of the word “screwed” as in Protestants are “screwed up”. Not an example of Christ. In fact the scriptures teach us not to use vulgar language. Note: Where is the pity for the Catholic who has the sacraments, Scriptures, clergy, reminders of their faith everywhere but live like Devil? They cheat at work, they have premarital affairs or extra marital affairs, or they are drunkards, or killing themselves with smoking (not realizing their bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit). They are ok with both venial and mortal sins. As long as they make it up in the confession booth not realizing they are commiting the sin of presumption. For it is many of these described Catholics that many people are protestant today. Note the scripture used by the OP. He leaves out and important aspect. Where Jesus says to get away, I never knew you. How many Catholics will hear these words. Believing they are ok if they just follow the rules and not have that all important relationship with the Lord. How many Protestants have improved lives for becoming protestant? I assure you many. This OP seems hypocritical and short sited. Many protestants don’t use their faith to justify sin. Many Catholics do. My father for instance married civil outside of the church so when there was a divorse he could accurately say he was never sacramentally married so he can marry again. What kind of behavior is that?
Now there are Catholics who love the lord with all their heart and serve him. There are protestants who do the same. Should it be that we pray these will reconsile and the protestants return to the Chruch in proper fellowship rather than accuse? The devil is named in the scripture. He is Ha Satan. The accusor. To Just accuse people and anticipate their destruction is acting like the devil. How can a christian do this? It shouldn’t be done. So to the OP I say. Take the plank out of your own eye so that you can see better to take the plank out of your brothers.

I wouldn’t say angry and bitter… Just a bit energetic at times I’m rather quite happy. I’ve done a good job removing the plank from my eye my friend. I know that verse well. What I ask is this… Has anything I said been incorrect? Did Jesus himself create the catholic church? Yes… Does the catholic church continue the apostolic ministry in the forgiveness of sins? Yes… Where’s the problem? Are people that easily offended??? Apparantly

 

[Susan_Mary]

It’s not bigotry to call Protestant beliefs ignorant, they are.

After listening to Dr. Peter Kreeft’s new talk “7 Reasons to be Catholic” (Available at: catholicaudio.blogspot.com/search/label/SPEAKER%3A%20Peter%20Kreeft ), I’ve changed my mind about what I think and how I talk to Protestants.

As Dr. Kreeft says:

“It was a very stupid mistake to think that you could deal with heresy by burning heretics. It’s the very same the mistake that modernist Catholics are making today in reverse. They think you can love heretics by loving heresies. We have to hate the sin and love the sinner. That’s a hard distinction to make and we’ve been rather bad at it. But the principals are there, the truth is there, what we should do is there, its just that we just haven’t acted on it very well.”

When asked if Protestant scholars are merely victims of poor teaching, Dr. Kreeft responded:

"I think most of them are victims of poor teaching. There’s one book that did more harm then any other by Loraine Boettner called ‘Roman Catholicism’ which Fundamentalist always quote even though its been refuted time and time again. So I think its ignorance.

Give the talk a listen. I learned a lot.