Protestants are not a different "religion" from Catholics

[rinnie]

Protestants and Catholics are all apart of the same religion, Christianity.

Correct, If we are baptised in the Name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit we are all baptised into one Faith. When you are baptised in the name of Christ you have become part of his Catholic Church, rather you realize it or not.

 

[awantz]

Correct, If we are baptised in the Name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit we are all baptised into one Faith. When you are baptised in the name of Christ you have become part of his Catholic Church, rather you realize it or not.

If I am a part of the Catholic Church, why can’t I take communion in a Catholic Church?

 

[ESMDHokie77]

If I am a part of the Catholic Church, why can’t I take communion in a Catholic Church?

If you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches… why aren’t you officially a Catholic? If you don’t believe everything the CC teaches… why would you want to? You’d be lying about being in communion with what Catholics profess.

 

[CopticChristian]

If I am a part of the Catholic Church, why can’t I take communion in a Catholic Church?

You can take communion and it would be as relevant as the grape juice and bread in your Protestant Church. You are part of the Catholic Church by your baptism. If you, by choice, refuse to engage in becoming more of a part of it, by your choice, then you remain a part of it imperfectly. We do not reject you. You by choice, choose to pursue the beliefs no further than you have come and for that reason the question arises as you have provided here. The better question would not be why, rather How and What.

How can I partake of the Lord’s supper, communion in a more meaningful way and what would that accomplish. Forget Why, unless you choose to stay as you are.

The only thing stopping you is you.

 

[awantz]

If you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches… why aren’t you officially a Catholic? If you don’t believe everything the CC teaches… why would you want to? You’d be lying about being in communion with what Catholics profess.

I’ve done everything short of confirmation, when it comes to becoming Catholic. Then, I prayed about it and the holy Spirit led me to a non-denominational church who welcomes Catholics with open arms and doesn’t try to get them to change their beliefs or become a member of their church. Instead, they treat them the same as they do those who are members. Another Catholic told me to follow the Holy Spirit, wherever it was to lead me. One reason I would want to is, because my husband is Catholic and we could take communion together at his church, too. Also, allowing other Christians to take communion in the Catholic church would help encourage unity. I could go on and on, but I won’t.

 

[awantz]

If you believe everything the Catholic Church teaches… why aren’t you officially a Catholic? If you don’t believe everything the CC teaches… why would you want to? You’d be lying about being in communion with what Catholics profess.

I’ve done everything short of confirmation, when it comes to becoming Catholic. During the whole thing the priest acted like he didn’t want me in His church. Then, I prayed about it and the Holy Spirit led me to a non-denominational church who welcomes Catholics with open arms and doesn’t try to get them to change their beliefs or become a member of their church. Instead, they treat them the same as they do those who are members. Another Catholic told me to follow the Holy Spirit, wherever it was to lead me.
One reason I would want to is, because my husband is Catholic and we could take communion together at his church, too. Also, allowing other Christians to take communion in the Catholic church would help encourage unity.
I could go on and on, but I won’t.
One thing I’d like to add that came from another topic,
Rather than hope everyone converts to catholicism, perhaps we should hope that all of us, as members of the Body of Christ; regardless of denomination or belief, will lift one another up, encourage and support. I have had the Light of Christ in my heart for MANY years, before joining this forum. WE can all learn from each other, and love each other, as Christ intended it to be!

 

[CopticChristian]

I’ve done everything short of confirmation, when it comes to becoming Catholic. During the whole thing the priest acted like he didn’t want me in His church. Then, I prayed about it and the Holy Spirit led me to a non-denominational church who welcomes Catholics with open arms and doesn’t try to get them to change their beliefs or become a member of their church. Instead, they treat them the same as they do those who are members. Another Catholic told me to follow the Holy Spirit, wherever it was to lead me.
One reason I would want to is, because my husband is Catholic and we could take communion together at his church, too. Also, allowing other Christians to take communion in the Catholic church would help encourage unity.
I could go on and on, but I won’t.
One thing I’d like to add that came from another topic,
Rather than hope everyone converts to catholicism, perhaps we should hope that all of us, as members of the Body of Christ; regardless of denomination or belief, will lift one another up, encourage and support. I have had the Light of Christ in my heart for MANY years, before joining this forum. WE can all learn from each other, and love each other, as Christ intended it to be!

You know how Protestants of varying stripes try to convert Catholics because they don’t want them to go to hell?

You know that a non-denominational church is a Protestant Church that teaches extrinsice justification, sola fide, sola scriptura and denys the authority of the church.

You are asking communists, socialists and those that believe in democracy to join hands because they all have the notion of government in their minds.

It is like this. We believe in the One Holy Catholic Church that we are saved by grace, through faith allowing us to do works that are pleasing to God. We believe we are regenerated in baptism, and if you have been baptized then we believe that you have been regenerated. You may have accetped Jesus as personal lord and savior, we do that every day however Protestant theology is extrinsic justification, legally acquitted by the righteousness of Christ, to be an acquitted criminal.

We believe that our God is father, we are children. We believe our God loves us just the way we are but too much to let us stay that way and expects us to grow in the Faith. We believe that the Church is the Body of Christ and since that body has acknowledged that all baptized in the trinitarian formula are truly Christian, to suggest that we do as other than the Father does would be incorrect, we love you too much to let you stay that way.

We can all join hands and say hey we love Jesus. Some will be children of God by the declaration of God. Some will be acquitted criminals as a result of a man made religion. I and the Church believe God wants all his children to come home, as children, not as criminals.

 

[ESMDHokie77]

(…) During the whole thing the priest acted like he didn’t want me in His church. (…) Another Catholic told me to follow the Holy Spirit, wherever it was to lead me.
One reason I would want to is, because my husband is Catholic and we could take communion together at his church, too. Also, allowing other Christians to take communion in the Catholic church would help encourage unity.
I could go on and on, but I won’t.
One thing I’d like to add that came from another topic,
Rather than hope everyone converts to catholicism, perhaps we should hope that all of us, as members of the Body of Christ; regardless of denomination or belief, will lift one another up, encourage and support. I have had the Light of Christ in my heart for MANY years, before joining this forum. WE can all learn from each other, and love each other, as Christ intended it to be!

I’m sorry that you got that vibe from the priest; remember though… it’s not his church, the Church belongs to Jesus.
How do you know it was the Holy Spirit that led you away from the CC?
I can certainly understand how you wish to be able to share one faith with your husband, and you have my prayers.

The Church “could” let non Catholics receive communion, but why stop there? Why not throw out the deuterocanon, why not dissolve the papacy, why not start having altar calls… I could go on and on, but I won’t.

I give a hearty AMEN to the last segment of your post. I’ve learned a lot from my protestant girlfriend about how to have a sincere and deep love for Christ. But that doesn’t mean we can sweep under the carpet legitimate differences in doctrines. I encourage all Christians to give a thorough logical, historical, biblical, and theological scrutiny to their and others beliefs. …so that they may all be one…

 

[Paxvobis]

I am disappointed at the title of this forum. Protestants are not a different “religion” from Catholics. That’s a misuse of the term “religion.” Islam is a different religion from Christianity, but Protestants are part of the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church. This is acknowledged by most RC scholars.
Tom

I see what you’re saying. Protestants are members of the Catholic Church. But Protestants are still a different religion in that - in the view of the Church - they are not conducting their worship of God properly (in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass) and they have corrupted some of the doctrines of the Church (Purgatory, the Real Presence, Mary as Theotokos, et cetera). Thus, they are a different religion in the eyes of the Church.

Anglicans consider Catholics members of the Church yet disagree with them on some matters, no?

 

[awantz]

You know how Protestants of varying stripes try to convert Catholics because they don’t want them to go to hell?

You know that a non-denominational church is a Protestant Church that teaches extrinsice justification, sola fide, sola scriptura and denys the authority of the church.

You are asking communists, socialists and those that believe in democracy to join hands because they all have the notion of government in their minds.

It is like this. We believe in the One Holy Catholic Church that we are saved by grace, through faith allowing us to do works that are pleasing to God. We believe we are regenerated in baptism, and if you have been baptized then we believe that you have been regenerated. You may have accetped Jesus as personal lord and savior, we do that every day however Protestant theology is extrinsic justification, legally acquitted by the righteousness of Christ, to be an acquitted criminal.

We believe that our God is father, we are children. We believe our God loves us just the way we are but too much to let us stay that way and expects us to grow in the Faith. We believe that the Church is the Body of Christ and since that body has acknowledged that all baptized in the trinitarian formula are truly Christian, to suggest that we do as other than the Father does would be incorrect, we love you too much to let you stay that way.

We can all join hands and say hey we love Jesus. Some will be children of God by the declaration of God. Some will be acquitted criminals as a result of a man made religion. I and the Church believe God wants all his children to come home, as children, not as criminals.

No/wrong
No/wrong
No/wrong
You don’t know what you are talking about.
We believe that way too. My husband who is Catholic saw it too. He shouldn’t be allowed to be a priest/pastor in any church.
All Christians are His children.

 

[CopticChristian]

No/wrong
No/wrong
No/wrong
You don’t know what you are talking about.
We believe that way too. My husband who is Catholic saw it too. He shouldn’t be allowed to be a priest/pastor in any church.
All Christians are His children.

Everything you say is true for you, I would only add the following:

In your opinion, based on what you believe and then there is no agrument.

 

[Sketh1337]

No religion is different from the other. They all worship something or somethings, only thing thats different is how much you actually believe in it. Different ways of worship doesn’t matter since its still worship.

 

[CopticChristian]

No religion is different from the other. They all worship something or somethings, only thing thats different is how much you actually believe in it. Different ways of worship doesn’t matter since its still worship.

You may want to reflect on what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman, we worship on that hill and you worhsip on this hill…and he said we worship what we know and you worship what you don’t know…

 

[richard_wang]

In many things they are with us. In a few things not with us.

But in those few things in which they are not with us, the many things in which they are will not profit them.

- St. Augustine

 

[Lost_one]

I know lots of Protestants who think I’m going to hell because I’m a revert Catholic. They were “friends” who no longer speak to me.

Hi,

I think this is a terrible attitude for anyone to have and unfortunately it is widespread and not only among protestants. I can understand reducing or avoiding certain public contact with someone who engages in scandalous activities openly to avoid being associated with the activity, but I’ll never understand why people stop speaking to a friend because they change to a different religion. Are they afraid of “catching” the religion as they would a disease if they remain in the presence of said person? If I believe a friend is on the path to hell it is a good reason to speak to him more often to try to help him, not to avoid him!

 

[seniyajw]

I’m not God, so I can not pretend to know their true intentions or to judge their behavior. All I know is when creating new doctrines that contradict existing church we are not a reform but a new beginning.

 

[ESMDHokie77]

I’m not God, so I can not pretend to know their true intentions or to judge their behavior. All I know is when creating new doctrines that contradict existing church we are not a reform but a new beginning.

Yeah… like that dang Martin Luther and his new doctrines.

 

[rinnie]

I’ve done everything short of confirmation, when it comes to becoming Catholic. Then, I prayed about it and the holy Spirit led me to a non-denominational church who welcomes Catholics with open arms and doesn’t try to get them to change their beliefs or become a member of their church. Instead, they treat them the same as they do those who are members. Another Catholic told me to follow the Holy Spirit, wherever it was to lead me. One reason I would want to is, because my husband is Catholic and we could take communion together at his church, too. Also, allowing other Christians to take communion in the Catholic church would help encourage unity. I could go on and on, but I won’t.

Well here is where the problem comes into play. If a Priest would let everyone enter into communion and they are in a state of mortal sin then have condemned themself before Christ.

Please no disrespect in what I am going to say, but the reason you are having a hard time accepting the Catholic faith is because you do not know the Catholic faith.

If you truly understood it you would be defending it, not defending a Church that as you stated and I agree lets them believe what they WANT to believe.

God gives us a choice we can either do as he said and stay true to the teachings of the early Fathers of the Church or we can choose a different path.

Now here is another thing that bothers me, you are saying that the Holy Spirit is who is leading you to different truths.

But Jesus assured the apostles and thier successors the pope and bishops He who listens to me and he who reject you reject ME. Luke 10:16 Jesus promised to guide his Church into alll truth Johnn 16:12-13

Now lets go back to what you are saying.

Among the Christian Churches only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian churc is an offshoot of the CC. Even the easter Orthodox broke off with the pope in 1054. Then came the Protestant breaking off starting in 1517 and have been doing so ever since.

Now how can the Holy Spirit lead you into different truths? That is my question, when Christ promised us there is Only ONE TRUTH. and the Catholic Church is the Pilar of all truth?

 

[CopticChristian]

I’m not God, so I can not pretend to know their true intentions or to judge their behavior. All I know is when creating new doctrines that contradict existing church we are not a reform but a new beginning.

I agree with the new beginning, and to that I would add…of a new religion.

 

[CopticChristian]

Yeah… like that dang Martin Luther and his new doctrines.

Usage creates understanding. Understanding comes with usage either by word or ideology. The world sees what I and you see. The tragedy is that those in the new religion do not see what you and I see and the world sees.

medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-religion/protestant-reformation.htm

The practices of the Catholic religion were questioned during the Reformation and the beliefs of men such as Martin Luther (1483 - 1546) prompted a new religion called Protestantism.

1911encyclopedia.org/Protestant

The name Protestant seems to have been first applied to the protesting princes by their opponents, and it soon came to be used indiscriminately of all the adherents of the reformed religion. Its use appears to have spread more rapidly outside Germany than in Germany itself, one cause of its popularity being that it was negative and colourless, and could thus be applied by adherents of the “old religion” to those of the “**new religion,” **without giving offence, on occasions when it was expedient to avoid abusive language

korcula.net/history/mmarelic/luther.htm

The Prince arranged a pretend kidnapping of Luther and hid him away for about a year in the castle at Wartburg. Here, Luther translated the Bible from Greek into German. His translation allowed the Germans people to read the word of God without having to rely on the interpretation by the priest. Luther continued to write work in which he attacked the church or discussed books of the Bible. His teaching eventually inspired a new Protestant religion called Lutheranism. This new religion would continue to oppose the once all-powerful Catholic Church.

These are just a few examples of what the world sees. History as we all know when seen through the eyes of the New Religion favors the new religion and is often out of step with history as we know it. This is why many do not know their roots.

Protestant thought can be traced to Knox, Zwingli, Luther, Calvin, Henry VIII, all catholic, white europeans starting a new religion, introducing novel concepts like extrinsic justification, denial of Church Authority, claiming salvation by Faith alone, and using the Bible alone. It has flourished.

Mormons started a new religion that differed from the Protestant group from which it sprang. Joseph Smith born into Protestant thought created a new religion, differing from Protestantism in general, adding to the Protestant revalation and redifining many of the aforementioned Protestant ideas. This too has flourished.

Like begits like.