Protestants: Could you please do us all a favor??

[Zundrah]

I thought you said in post #422 that you’re not Catholic and thus were denied communion?

Here is the deal,

I left a protestant church six months ago.
I have joined a roman catholic church now. So I am a candidate but not yet confirmed.
But I can’t call me self catholic yet, can I?
But I am most certainly not protestant any more!

Make sense now?

 

[Zundrah]

wow… that’s awesome…

congratulations…

have you posted your testimony (as they call it in the non-Catholic churches)??

i (& others here) enjoy conversion stories…

It’s very, very loooooong…:whacky:
I will try to gather it together and post you or by PM, promise!

 

[Zundrah]

hmmm… that’s weird…

maybe she just meant to say she is becoming Catholic… and because she already believes what she knows of the Faith… she considers herslef Catholic??

:heaven: Some times I seem to appear as a bit of an enigma on this site. :bible1:

 

[script77]

It is the first prayer you say when you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and saviour. Before saying the prayer you may be religious or spiritual but in evangelic circles you are not yet a Christian.

So can a child born into a Christian family, not yet able to pray, or even speak, not be able to accept Jesus as his/her personal Lord and Saviour? So a child of Christian parents is not a Child of God?

 

[Memaw]

The Eastern church NEVER recognized the self asserted “authority” of the Bishop of Rome. Historically, the BOR was “honored” because Rome was the ancient capital of the empire, but he was never recognized in the east as “head of the church.” In fact, the Ecumenical Council of Chalecedon (451), composed of assembled Bishops from all the world, gave the Patriarch of Constantinople equal prerogatives with the BOR. The evolution of the authority of the BOR occurred only in the west. That’s why he’s called the head of the “Roman Catholic Church.” The church of Rome took on the NAME “Catholic.” But it was never “catholic” (universal) in reality. It took on that name like a Protestant denomination might call itself “The Church of Christ.”

Then why are the Eastern Orthodox working towards reuniting with the Pope, Sorry friend but your reading the wrong history books. God Bless, Memaw

 

[Worthy5]

Then why are the Eastern Orthodox working towards reuniting with the Pope, Sorry friend but your reading the wrong history books. God Bless, Memaw

Moondweller, my friend begin that journey home. The doors are open begin that final journey.

 

[PRmerger]

I have joined a roman catholic church now. So I am a candidate but not yet confirmed.
But I can’t call me self catholic yet, can I?

Bummer. No, you can’t, dear heart. But welcome Home! You’re definitely on your way!

I’m sad, however, that you went to a Mass for the first time (presumably with your RCIA group?) and no one explained anything to you? Who is the director of your RCIA?

 

[PRmerger]

And I believe(hate to nit pick)that would be the Altar of God

Go for it, 1beleevr! I could see how you could interpret that as a text which supports an “altar call”.

However, I hope you provide Catholics the same leeway with all the Scriptural verses we provide for supporting: purgatory, praying to saints, Mary’s Immaculate Conception, the papacy, etc etc etc.

 

[Peter_J]

Here is the deal,

I left a protestant church six months ago.
I have joined a roman catholic church now. So I am a candidate but not yet confirmed.
But I can’t call me self catholic yet, can I?
But I am most certainly not protestant any more!

Make sense now?

Yes, that completely makes sense. You’re a “Candidate for Full Communion”.

So will you be “received in” next Easter?

 

[Zundrah]

Bummer. No, you can’t, dear heart. But welcome Home! You’re definitely on your way!

I’m sad, however, that you went to a Mass for the first time (presumably with your RCIA group?) and no one explained anything to you? Who is the director of your RCIA?

I went to the mas all alone…
It was my idea and I did tell a few people on this site that I was going to do it. Some people were excited for me while others thought I was just “pulling their legs”.
I went in and no one greeted me, after the mass no one even spoke to me then. I wanted to talk to some one but there was no one with any time available (really, really frustrating).
The whole mass was complete jargon:whacky: to me. I didn’t understand anything that happened.

The priest didn’t explain him self to me, nor did any other minister there. I even told them that I was a protestant! But they just said “Fill this membership form in.”

Graaahh, can you imagine what that was like!? I’ve only ever been to protestant services on Sunday and they are completely different to the catholic mass.
Why did no one help me?

 

[Zundrah]

Yes, that completely makes sense. You’re a “Candidate for Full Communion”.

So will you be “received in” next Easter?

So will you be “received in” next Easter? - Don’t ask me, I don’t have a clue what they’re going to do to me!

 

[Zundrah]

Bummer. No, you can’t, dear heart. But welcome Home! You’re definitely on your way!

I’m sad, however, that you went to a Mass for the first time (presumably with your RCIA group?) and no one explained anything to you? Who is the director of your RCIA?

The church was called;
The Holy Family
Roman Catholic Diocese of Brentwood. (England obviously!).

 

[moondweller]

Then why are the Eastern Orthodox working towards reuniting with the Pope,

“Reunite with the Pope?” When in history did they ever concede to being under the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome?

Sorry friend but your reading the wrong history books.

You’re in denial. Which history books have you read?

 

[Memaw]

I went to the mas all alone…
It was my idea and I did tell a few people on this site that I was going to do it. Some people were excited for me while others thought I was just “pulling their legs”.
I went in and no one greeted me, after the mass no one even spoke to me then. I wanted to talk to some one but there was no one with any time available (really, really frustrating).
The whole mass was complete jargon:whacky: to me. I didn’t understand anything that happened.

Zundrah,
Please don’t call the Holy Mass ‘wacky’, remember, you are talking about the Supper of the LORD, you just didn’t understand it. When you do and I hope that will be soon, you will see the difference. No one could, nor should you expect to understand the first time you were there, but that will come.

The priest didn’t explain him self to me, nor did any other minister there. I even told them that I was a protestant! But they just said “Fill this membership form in.”

ALSO,
Did you tell the priest that you were interested in the Catholic Faith? maybe he thought you were a visitor.

Graaahh, can you imagine what that was like!? I’ve only ever been to protestant services on Sunday and they are completely different to the catholic mass.
Why did no one help me?

Yes I can, when I was very young, I once went to a Baptist service with a cousin and they had an alter call and I knew nothing about what they were doing, All had to stand. They said, "If you have accepted Christ as your Personal Savior, please sit. Then he said, if you have not yet accepted Christ as your personal Savior, please remain standing, we will pray and sing till you all come forward to receive Him. I tried to sit down and my cousin asked me if I have ever accepted Christ as my personal Savior and I said,“I don’t know what you mean”. So she told me to stay standing. Finally I was about the only one left standing and felt so out of place and I finally set down whether she liked it or not. Later she chastised me for setting down and said I have not been saved, that I need to accept Christ as my personal Savior if I want to go to Heaven. And I told her I have ALWAYS known and believed and accepted that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior ever since I could remember. I have NO doubt about that. Well of course she didn’t accept that and I never went back. BUT after many conversations etc, she left the Baptist Church and came into the Catholic Faith, much to the anger of her preacher.

If I would have been there, I would have helped you IF I knew you wanted help. We are not mind readers so you need to start a conversation with someone just as you would at any other gathering. My Aunt, walked my husband thru the Catholic Latin Mass, years ago, and he never forgot that.

 

[Peter_J]

“Reunite with the Pope?” When in history did they ever concede to being under the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome?

‘“Reunite with the Pope?” When in history did they ever concede to being under the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome?’ Non-sequitor.

 

[Memaw]

“Reunite with the Pope?” When in history did they ever concede to being under the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Rome?You’re in denial. Which history books have you read?

Read the writings of the Early Church Fathers. God Bless, Memaw.

 

[Peter_J]

So will you be “received in” next Easter? - Don’t ask me, I don’t have a clue what they’re going to do to me!

It’ll probably be next Easter.

BTW, it’s possible that the parish in question isn’t really the right parish for you.

 

[moondweller]

Hi moondweller,

That’s a good suggestion, except that you’ve got it backwards. You’re the one who needs to go back and re-read the quotations from Vatican I and Vatican II. They do say that the Pope is infallible whenever he makes an ex cathedra statement, as Distracted and I said in posts #568 and #580, respectively. They do not say that the Pope is infallible whenever he speaks on faith and morals (as I’ve been trying to tell you right along, going back to post #461).

And I said I responded to you in the context of Vat. 1 & 2. IOW, when he speaks ex cathedra. Your overwhelming prejudice towards Protestants blinds you, Peter. I also added that paragraph in Vat. 2 that states that Roman Catholics are required to respect whatever your Pope says even when not speaking ex cathedra. He’s your Boss, applesauce.

 

[Peter_J]

The fact remains, the Catholic Church has never taught that the Pope is infallible whenever he speaks on faith and morals.

That was the truth when I said in back in post #461, and it is still the truth.

BTW, my name is Peter.

 

[moondweller]

The fact remains, the Catholic Church has never taught that the Pope is infallible whenever he speaks on faith and morals.

That was the truth when I said in back in post #461, and it is still the truth.

Yes. But you didn’t specify the word “whenever.” “Whenever” he speaks officially on faith and morals it means he’s speaking “ex cathedra.” You’re too quick to try to prove all Protestants ignorant of Catholicism. But that’s just not the case, especially in mine.

BTW, my name is Peter.

Ah-huh.