Peter didn’t get anything from Jesus that we don’t also have. No Pope, no human being, no one anywhere has a right to change the “blood sacrifice of Jesus” to their own brand of “unbloody sacrifice.” His shed blood is all that is needed. Thats one of the many reason the Bible says “once for all.”
From the Church’s infancy, she has always believed in the Real Presence. It is only after the reformation, 1500 years later that people started to not believe in the Real Presence of Christ. Even Luther still believed in the real presence. I think the apostles and those who came directly after the apostles are more credible than those who came 1500 years later who did not have any contact with human Jesus.
I am not afraid. I am questioning something being called “truth.”
From the Catholic Church’s infancy - not “the Church’s infancy;” and Protestants don’t follow Luther anyways. So you can say what you want about him. We follow Jesus. Not a piece of bread.
Actually yes he did. He was singled out by Jesus time and time again. There is Matthew 16:18 and there is His commissioning in John 21 just to name the significat ones.
Wrong. It was the Church’s infancy. There is only one true Church of Christ and that is the Catholic Church. You are obviously very much lacking in historical knowledge. Even a quick google with Wikipedia will assure you of that.
No you don’t follow Jesus. Because you don’t listen to Him when He speaks. Because you disregard His words. Then you don’t follow Jesus, you follow yourselves. It is called Sola Ego.
Well, it is good that you are questioning. I am actually very happy that you are here at CAF. But as in any questioning, you must take time to listen to the answer. You need ponder and mull over our answers Think about it.
Even most protestants are not cheeky enough to say that Peter does not have the keys of the kingdom.
You do understand that these are weak arguments at best concerning the priesthood, which explicitly stated in Hebrews is done away with. Also, the tabernacle" called" the true tabernacle, which God made, not man…If I’m not mistaken your tabernacles are made by man…right?Hi, NonCatholic,
Let me try my hand at this and see if these responses address the topic:
The mental picture I had when you asked this question was why didn’t one or more of the Apostles drop to their knees and begin to chew on Christ’s hands and feet?
As my imagination continues… so, here I see the Apostles going up to Peter and asking him what is going on. Peter may have responded, “I don’t know about that - but, there is one thing that I do know: Christ has the words of eternal life!” This second part (John 6:68) was said under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit… but, no one understood what Christ was talking about until He revealed what He meant at the Last Supper (Mark 14:22).
Christ consecrates the common bread and tells the Apostles “This is my Body”. Christ in now, physically, holding Himself in His Own Hands - and gives it to the Apostles to eat (as in gnaw on). There is no natural explanation for this. All we have are the statements from Christ (and, by the way, that is all you have, too!) Christ told His friends to “do this” as in repeat this process (consecrating common bread and wine into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ). The Apostles were now directly given the power and authority - by God Himself - to, in fact, “do this”. And this would be the very beginning of the priesthood in the CC.
As I understand Heb 10:11- “Every priest stands daily at his ministry, offering frequently those same sacrifices that can never take away sins. But this one offered one sacrifice for sins, and took his seat forever at the right hand of God; now he waits until his enemies are made his footstool. For by one offering he has made perfect forever those who are being consecrated.”
Christ died once for all. The Catholic Priest at Mass in not ‘re-killing’ or ‘re-sacrificing’ Christ. Rather, the priest is following Christ’s directives to, “…do this in memory of Me…”. The Priest, in the person of Christ, is consecrating the common bread and wine into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ - the Son of God.
Christ gave Peter the Keys to the Kingdom (Matt 16:19). Peter (and by extension, his successors the Popes - all the way to Benedict XVI) has the power and authority and responsibility to make what changes are necessary. The CC has determined that a tabernacle and an altar will be an essential part of a Catholic Chruch so that the un-bloodly sacrifice of the Mass can be celebrated.
Ultimtely, it really rests on faith.
Either one believes what Christ said - as plainly recorded in your own Bible - or, one believes something and/or someone else. What else is there?
New King James
I complettely apologize. I didn’t realize they render it differently in KJV so it is very easy to misread it.
From the Church’s infancy, she has always believed in the Real Presence. It is only after the reformation, 1500 years later that people started to not believe in the Real Presence of Christ. Even Luther still believed in the real presence. I think the apostles and those who came directly after the apostles are more credible than those who came 1500 years later who did not have any contact with human Jesus.
We don’t call a piece of bread Jesus. It is Jesus because HE SAID SO. Why won’t you believe Him? It was Christ himself who said so.
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Quick answew: The devil has His mind clouded with false understanding is scripture and he doesn’t want to see the truth! It would hurt his pride and be against his false beliefs. SDA **
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We should all understand each others beliefs and points of view. 
It makes for better discussion and clears the air, don’t you think?**SDA. I suggested to a friend who does not go to Church that he is actually very religious and belongs to the SDA - the Seventh Day ABSENTIST.
**That is cuteHi Ben,
**]“I don’t know why some people change churches; what difference does it make which one you stay home from?” --Unknown!
Wrong. The first famous theologian to advocate memorialism was Zwingli, a contemporary of Luther’s.
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