protestants not confessing to a priest

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Well, I think most Protestants would be lacking full knowledge sufficient to make a sin mortal since most Protestants believe all sins to be equal but if they do meet all three conditions for a sin to be mortal and they commit a mortal sin then the only way they will go to Heaven is if they have perfect contrition.
 
I wish non Christians who have a need for forgiveness , or who despair ( addicts , people who need help NOW), could have access to the counsel of a Priest , .).,even confession , , the reason being many are in despair and convert to Jesus thru non catholic pathways because they’re desperate , and they feel saved from different ills instantly , and mystery of mysteries get on with a healthier concscience. But a long term relationship with the sacrament is where it’s at., ,
 
I wish non Christians who have a need for forgiveness , or who despair ( addicts , people who need help NOW), could have access to the counsel of a Priest , .).,even confession , , the reason being many are in despair and convert to Jesus thru non catholic pathways because they’re desperate , and they feel saved from different ills instantly , and mystery of mysteries get on with a healthier concscience. But a long term relationship with the sacrament is where it’s at., ,
I rather think they do if they find their way ‘into’ an Anglican Church because the priest wouldn’t turn them away and I know that to Roman Catholics our confession is different but there is a priest and have full confidentiality there and they would be guided through the confession and have full access to it and be fully forgiven.
 
I guess that moment of life or death would be satisfied , and long term wise, would that Anglican community be in communion with Rome, or the larger catholic world, or just a wing of Protestantism ?
 
I think it is because we know that God is everywhere and he knows our hearts. If we pray to Him & repent for our sins and turn away from them, then God has already forgotten them. We don’t feel the need to confess to a priest and be absolved because we can tell God directly, but we still do confess to another to be held accountable for our sins.
Hi Carina,

This might have been asked and answered already, but if not, are you currently investigating the Catholic faith in RCIA as your title suggests? If so, are the above your beliefs, or just answering based upon a Protestant perspective? Do you still believe the above statement to be the fullness of Catholic teaching - meaning do you believe that yes, God “has already forgotten them” (sins repented directly to God without the benefit of Reconciliation)? Have you investigated the Catholic teaching regarding the Sacrament of Reconciliation and the biblical basis for the sacrament? Has your RCIA instructor instructed regarding this sacrament?

God Bless
 
Hi Carina,
This might have been asked and answered already, but if not, are you currently investigating the Catholic faith in RCIA as your title suggests?
Yes, I am currently investigating becoming Catholic and am attending RCIA. I plan to be baptized this Easter. Also, I’m lookin into religious life.
If so, are the above your beliefs, or just answering based upon a Protestant perspective?
Well the above is basically what I was taught growing up in a non-denominational church. If you are truly repentant before God, then he has forgiven you. Also, every Sunday at the end of church we have what’s called the Benediction where the pastor leads everyone into a prayer confessing Jesus as our Lord and Savior and repenting for our sins and asking God for forgiveness.
Have you investigated the Catholic teaching regarding the Sacrament of Reconciliation and the biblical basis for the sacrament? Has your RCIA instructor instructed regarding this sacrament? God Bless
I’ve spoken with a priest about and with some Catholic friends. I’m still trying to understand it. I know its very beneficial because it can help keep you in check and accountable and if the confessor is also that celebrates the Mass at your church, then you can also meet with him privately if you need to be counseled more and need help on how to stop a particularly difficult sin. This semester is when we will be getting deeper into different parts of the Catholic faith so I think maybe we will get to the Sacrament of Reconciliation soon. I still don’t completely understand it, but I will be able to ask questions about it at RCIA. For example, since I was already baptized when I was 18 in the church I grew up in, I know I don’t need to get ‘re-baptized’ because that is not even possible. The church recognizes baptism from other Christian churches. But does that mean at my first confession I have to repent for every sin I’ve ever committed? Or only the sins I haven’t repented for on my own? Does the Church recognize repentence of sins that don’t involve formally confessing to a priest?
 
Hi Carina. I will keep you in my prayers as you continue to investigate the catholic faith and discern religious life. May God bless you on your journey. As for your first confession. My understanding is that you are to confess all mortal sins in number and kind to the best of your ability since your baptism and is beneficial to include all remembered venial sins as well. But you will find out more frOm your priest and rcia instructor.
 
Indifferent…

Thank you for sharing your experience in the confessional. What I recommended to non-Catholics would be most efficacious for them.

I attended RCIA for awhile. We have this older couple, the wife a Lutheran and on fire to become a Catholic, her husband, an Episcopalian holding back, but attending and very congenial.

When we came to the sacrament of penance, the comment of taking one’s sins to the priest caused them to look at the pastor. Not being a mind reader, I however got the impression they were responding with the thought, ‘we go to him?..with our sins???’ It made me chuckle.

Then a number of us said we find going to confession difficult, like carrying a load, and it is embarrassing, even if it isn’t too much…there is a grace to going to monthly confession. That surprised them.

Anyway, they both entered the Church. I spoke with them later about that time in class and how I read their reaction. They said they understand now…the priest represents Him, the priest is the human face of Christ Who is the human face of God the Father.

When I begin to open up with my sins, the load starts going away and I begin to experience the sweet presence of Jesus with me…then I no longer am aware of the priest, but begin to be fully open to Christ Himself. When the priest then gives absolution, I feel such a power and grace that is not of the priest but of Christ Himself, that it affirms the reality of Christ present in the sacraments.

The sacraments are concrete signs of the life of Christ with us. No subjective relativism and confusion.

The sacrament of confession is also the sacrament of healing. I have found I will state a physical weakness in the confession…brought on by some sin of some sort that impacts the body because of the consequence of sin…stress and tension? I don’t know about this, just speculating…

But when I bring to Christ a physical difficulty, I am intending for Him to heal that part of me.

I got out, many times forgetting everything and feel so connected and wholesome to the world around me. But later on in reflection…if I do go back, I found that ailment was gone.
 
I just think Protestants are too much into personal interpretation, which then causes them to look too much at men.

We have to look beyond them…and see the Church as the pool of the Blood of Christ upon which we draw our life, even it being offered to us every day at Daily Mass.
 
Indifferent…

Thank you for sharing your experience in the confessional. What I recommended to non-Catholics would be most efficacious for them.

I attended RCIA for awhile. We have this older couple, the wife a Lutheran and on fire to become a Catholic, her husband, an Episcopalian holding back, but attending and very congenial.

When we came to the sacrament of penance, the comment of taking one’s sins to the priest caused them to look at the pastor. Not being a mind reader, I however got the impression they were responding with the thought, ‘we go to him?..with our sins???’ It made me chuckle.

Then a number of us said we find going to confession difficult, like carrying a load, and it is embarrassing, even if it isn’t too much…there is a grace to going to monthly confession. That surprised them.

Anyway, they both entered the Church. I spoke with them later about that time in class and how I read their reaction. They said they understand now…the priest represents Him, the priest is the human face of Christ Who is the human face of God the Father.

When I begin to open up with my sins, the load starts going away and I begin to experience the sweet presence of Jesus with me…then I no longer am aware of the priest, but begin to be fully open to Christ Himself. When the priest then gives absolution, I feel such a power and grace that is not of the priest but of Christ Himself, that it affirms the reality of Christ present in the sacraments.

The sacraments are concrete signs of the life of Christ with us. No subjective relativism and confusion.

The sacrament of confession is also the sacrament of healing. I have found I will state a physical weakness in the confession…brought on by some sin of some sort that impacts the body because of the consequence of sin…stress and tension? I don’t know about this, just speculating…

But when I bring to Christ a physical difficulty, I am intending for Him to heal that part of me.

I got out, many times forgetting everything and feel so connected and wholesome to the world around me. But later on in reflection…if I do go back, I found that ailment was gone.
You are welcome. I don’t really get nervous about confession til right at the moment I confess the sins themselves. As an Anglican, it is something I feel should be much more emphasised in the Church of England.
 
I’ve spoken with a priest about and with some Catholic friends. I’m still trying to understand it. I know its very beneficial because it can help keep you in check and accountable and if the confessor is also that celebrates the Mass at your church, then you can also meet with him privately if you need to be counseled more and need help on how to stop a particularly difficult sin.
While all that you say concerning the sacrament of Reconciliation is true, you are missing the most important part; the effect of the sacrament itself. Reconciliation’s primary purpose is the forgiveness of sins, not a counseling session. I think you need to explore exactly what is meant by a sacrament.
But does that mean at my first confession I have to repent for every sin I’ve ever committed? Or only the sins I haven’t repented for on my own? Does the Church recognize repentence of sins that don’t involve formally confessing to a priest?
You are assuming that your personal confession to God, in lieu of the sacrament of Reconciliation, is adequate. It can be adequate, if you have perfect contrition, but only then (and perfect contrition is a very rare thing). A priest has no idea of the degree of contrition one might have had, so yes, you would need to, to the best of your ability, confess all serious sins you have committed. But this is a time for rejoicing in the mercy of God administered by his Church. All of your sins will be wiped away and he will remember them no more. It is precicely the reason that Christ gave the authority to forgive sins to the Church. Have you ever wondered why he did this?
 
Basically both Catholics and Protestants believe that Christ forgives sins. The differences are in the hows. The how for the Catholics is the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession). As been demonstrated in the posts here which are well explained by citing various passages from the Bible, going directly to God for the forgiveness of sins may not necessarily be a good thing, in fact it could be even disastrous.

It may be funny but very often God’s grace is being imparted through procedures - the healing of the blind for example where spittle was being rubbed on the eyes first. In fact even the salvation of mankind is brought about by th death on the cross.

That is what Sacament is - a procedure that is being instituted by the Church and thus Jesus.
 
While all that you say concerning the sacrament of Reconciliation is true, you are missing the most important part; the effect of the sacrament itself. Reconciliation’s primary purpose is the forgiveness of sins, not a counseling session. I think you need to explore exactly what is meant by a sacrament.
That’s not what I meant. I meant if they are having a difficult time with a particular sin that they can meet with the priest outside of confession to discuss how to stop if they keep confessing it and haven’t been successful in stopping. I didn’t mean get counseling during confession. Just to do what people mean when they always say, “You should consult a priest about that.”
 
That’s not what I meant. I meant if they are having a difficult time with a particular sin that they can meet with the priest outside of confession to discuss how to stop if they keep confessing it and haven’t been successful in stopping. I didn’t mean get counseling during confession. Just to do what people mean when they always say, “You should consult a priest about that.”
Fair enough. Just so you know I receive counseling each and every time I go to confession. I happen to have a wonderful priest who knows me very well. He tends to listen to my confession and then immediately p(name removed by moderator)oints the source of my sin (i.e. “This is all coming from pride…” ). He then gives me a penance based upon the nature of my sin, which is just incredible. I may have to recite the chaplet of Divine Mercy while contemplating the Stations of the Cross, or pray a rosary while gazing at a painting of the Blessed Virgin. Sometimes he will pick out a certain Psalm for me to contemplate. I wish all priests would pay so much attention to the penance they assign.
 
=Reuben J;10219297]Basically both Catholics and Protestants believe that Christ forgives sins. The differences are in the hows. The how for the Catholics is the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession). As been demonstrated in the posts here which are well explained by citing various passages from the Bible, going directly to God for the forgiveness of sins may not necessarily be a good thing, in fact it could be even disastrous.
While Lutherans share with Catholics the belief in confession/Holy Absolution, I would never say that going to God in prayer to ask forgiveness is disasterous. Otherwise, the Lord’s Prayer/Our Father is leading folks astray.
Better that we all understand that Christ provided a method of Absolution through the Church via His ordained ministry that not only brings forgiveness, but also the assurance of said through the announcement of grace and absolution.
It may be funny but very often God’s grace is being imparted through procedures - the healing of the blind for example where spittle was being rubbed on the eyes first. In fact even the salvation of mankind is brought about by th death on the cross.
That is what Sacament is - a procedure that is being instituted by the Church and thus Jesus
Agreed.
Jon
 
While Lutherans share with Catholics the belief in confession/Holy Absolution, I would never say that going to God in prayer to ask forgiveness is disasterous. Otherwise, the Lord’s Prayer/Our Father is leading folks astray.
I have never waited for Reconciliation to ask for God’s forgiveness after commiting a sin, in fact I think that would be an impossiblity for me. I know he reads my heart and knows the depth of my sorrow for my sins. This motivates me to seek out the Sacrament, however, as this is the means Christ intended for reconciliation with him.

As for the Our Father, this may be one of the most dangerous prayers one can recite. "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Those who have a difficult time forgiving others should really contemplate what is being said here.
 
While Lutherans share with Catholics the belief in confession/Holy Absolution, I would never say that going to God in prayer to ask forgiveness is disasterous. Otherwise, the Lord’s Prayer/Our Father is leading folks astray.
Better that we all understand that Christ provided a method of Absolution through the Church via His ordained ministry that not only brings forgiveness, but also the assurance of said through the announcement of grace and absolution.

Jon
At least that caught your attention Jon. 😉 As I said, I was referring to some earlier posts where going directly to God could be disastrous. The example given was in Genesis where Adam and Eve tended to justify their sins. You can refer to those posts for the actual context. The argument here I think is similar - it gives a person some monouvering to justify one’s wrongdoing. As the example in Genesis shows, if the only method is to go to God directly then that can happen to us too. However during confession the sin is to be confessed and the priest being the second person to know the sin would agree/disagree whether it is sin or not, and to give absolution. What do you think?
 
=JonNC;10222036]While Lutherans share with Catholics the belief in confession/Holy Absolution, I would never say that going to God in prayer to ask forgiveness is disasterous. Otherwise, the Lord’s Prayer/Our Father is leading folks astray.
Better that we all understand that Christ provided a method of Absolution through the Church via His ordained ministry that not only brings forgiveness, but also the assurance of said through the announcement of grace and absolution.
Agreed.
Jon
Well done My Friend!

Couln’t have done any bteer myself:D

Thanks Jon!

Pat
 
=Reuben J;10222472]At least that caught your attention Jon. 😉
I read a lot of your post, Reuben. 🙂
As I said, I was referring to some earlier posts where going directly to God could be disastrous. The example given was in Genesis where Adam and Eve tended to justify their sins. You can refer to those posts for the actual context. The argument here I think is similar - it gives a person some monouvering to justify one’s wrongdoing. As the example in Genesis shows, if the only method is to go to God directly then that can happen to us too. However during confession the sin is to be confessed and the priest being the second person to know the sin would agree/disagree whether it is sin or not, and to give absolution. What do you think?
I see what you’re saying. The pastor/confessor can guide us in our confession, our faith, our repentence, and our sanctification, etc.

Jon
 
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