Protestants: Sinner's Prayer-What must it say and does it assure Salvation?

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What “must” (should) it contain?

This is a general outline:

Confession of their sin

Confession of their faith in God/Jesus/Holy Spirit

Confession of their need to receive Christ into their heart as Lord and Savior

Confession of their need to receive the Holy Sprirt to renew their spirit

Promise of their fidelity to Christ and his commandments

I believe that when somone prays a prayer like this sincerely, they are saved. They will need formal education in their faith to receive the sacraments and a faith community to support them, but they are saved at that moment; so if they died soon after they would be with the Lord.

I think all Christians should be encouraged to pray like this. I have known many who were raised in the Church that I would not say are not saved because they do things by habit or obligation, not by true faith (other lifestyle factors show this as well)

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What “must” (should) it contain?

This is a general outline:

Confession of their sin

Confession of their faith in God/Jesus/Holy Spirit

Confession of their need to receive Christ into their heart as Lord and Savior

Confession of their need to receive the Holy Sprirt to renew their spirit

Promise of their fidelity to Christ and his commandments

I believe that when somone prays a prayer like this sincerely, they are saved. They will need formal education in their faith to receive the sacraments and a faith community to support them, but they are saved at that moment; so if they died soon after they would be with the Lord.

I think all Christians should be encouraged to pray like this. I have known many who were raised in the Church that I would not say are not saved because they do things by habit or obligation, not by true faith (other lifestyle factors show this as well)

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What I have always used is a formula of:
Confession/admission of being a sinner
Thank Christ for dying for me
Invite Him to be Lord and savior of my life

After this then is a follow up with get into a Bible based church to teach the Trinity and other Doctrines necessary to faith. I also like to assign new converts persons who are accountable to them for prayer. The problem that I have found in many churches today is little to no follow up with the new convert. They are the one the Devil is going to want back first as they will be the best and most shining witness for God. When a church does not surround the new ones, they may as well leave them out in the street to fend for themselves.
 
Romans 1: 16,17 - For I am not ashamed of the Good News: it is the power of God saving all who have faith - Jews first, but Greeks as well. Since this is what reveals the justice of God to us: it shows how faith leads to faith, or as scripture says, The upright man finds life through faith.

Romanss 10: 9 - 13, If your lips confess Jesus is Lord and if you believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, then you will be saved. By believing from the heart, you are made righteous; by confessing with your lips, you are saved. When scripture says: those who believe in Him will have no cause for shame, it makes no distinction between Jew and Greek: all belong to the same Lord who is rich enough, however many ask His help, for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
 
What “must” (should) it contain?

This is a general outline:

Confession of their sin

Confession of their faith in God/Jesus/Holy Spirit

Confession of their need to receive Christ into their heart as Lord and Savior

Confession of their need to receive the Holy Sprirt to renew their spirit

Promise of their fidelity to Christ and his commandments

I believe that when somone prays a prayer like this sincerely, they are saved. They will need formal education in their faith to receive the sacraments and a faith community to support them, but they are saved at that moment; so if they died soon after they would be with the Lord.

I think all Christians should be encouraged to pray like this. I have known many who were raised in the Church that I would not say are not saved because they do things by habit or obligation, not by true faith (other lifestyle factors show this as well)

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Altesse,

For those you say may not be saved, what benefits do you believe they received through infant Baptism and the Eucharist?
What I have always used is a formula of:
Confession/admission of being a sinner
Thank Christ for dying for me
Invite Him to be Lord and savior of my life

After this then is a follow up with get into a Bible based church to teach the Trinity and other Doctrines necessary to faith. I also like to assign new converts persons who are accountable to them for prayer. The problem that I have found in many churches today is little to no follow up with the new convert. They are the one the Devil is going to want back first as they will be the best and most shining witness for God. When a church does not surround the new ones, they may as well leave them out in the street to fend for themselves.
Padrej,

You make a very important point regarding the need for follow up after a profession of faith. Does your Church have a required Catechism for the new converts?

Anna
Romans 1: 16,17 - For I am not ashamed of the Good News: it is the power of God saving all who have faith - Jews first, but Greeks as well. Since this is what reveals the justice of God to us: it shows how faith leads to faith, or as scripture says, The upright man finds life through faith.

Romanss 10: 9 - 13, If your lips confess Jesus is Lord and if you believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, then you will be saved. By believing from the heart, you are made righteous; by confessing with your lips, you are saved. When scripture says: those who believe in Him will have no cause for shame, it makes no distinction between Jew and Greek: all belong to the same Lord who is rich enough, however many ask His help, for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
Glassman96,

First, welcome to CAF! 🙂

Do you think “believing from the heart” and “confessing with your lips,” assures salvation?

Appreciate all the comments,
Anna
 
What I have always used is a formula of:
Confession/admission of being a sinner
Thank Christ for dying for me
Invite Him to be Lord and savior of my life. . . .
It’s so easy to get hung-up on forms or wording or trying to decide what GOD will accept, as though HE were an omnipotent bureaucrat. That’s exactly what Jesus told the Pharisees that GOD does not care about. It’s the heart that GOD looks at and judges: is it humble and contrite.
It is very interesting that you are both Anglicans. Yet, Padrej–your religious designation is “Protestant”; and Michael Vernon, your religious designation is “Anglican-Catholic.” An Anglican forum member on another thread said that Anglicans often debate whether they are Protestant or not. Would either or both of you shed some light on this?

Thanks,
Anna
 
Altesse,

For those you say may not be saved, what benefits do you believe they received through infant Baptism and the Eucharist?

Padrej,

You make a very important point regarding the need for follow up after a profession of faith. Does your Church have a required Catechism for the new converts?

Anna

Glassman96,

First, welcome to CAF! 🙂

Do you think “believing from the heart” and “confessing with your lips,” assures salvation?

Appreciate all the comments,
Anna
Our church does have a catechism to teach by. My concern is more on spiritual development of the individual. In other words have them focus on the main thing, the Lord, not everybody else. Don’t worry if somebody else seems to be sinning, worry about your sin, keep the focus central to the Lord and His teachings first. Surround this new person with prayer.
 
Our church does have a catechism to teach by. My concern is more on spiritual development of the individual. In other words have them focus on the main thing, the Lord, not everybody else. Don’t worry if somebody else seems to be sinning, worry about your sin, keep the focus central to the Lord and His teachings first. Surround this new person with prayer.
Padrej,

You are right. The spiritual development is so important, and makes the catechism more meaningful. You are very wise, Padrej. 🙂

The Episcopal Church has a 10-week Catechism, which ends with a spiritual retreat. I think a new class is to start after Easter. Looking forward to it.

In Christ,
Anna
 
Romans 1: 16,17 - For I am not ashamed of the Good News: it is the power of God saving all who have faith - Jews first, but Greeks as well. Since this is what reveals the justice of God to us: it shows how faith leads to faith, or as scripture says, The upright man finds life through faith.

Romanss 10: 9 - 13, If your lips confess Jesus is Lord and if you believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, then you will be saved. By believing from the heart, you are made righteous; by confessing with your lips, you are saved. When scripture says: those who believe in Him will have no cause for shame, it makes no distinction between Jew and Greek: all belong to the same Lord who is rich enough, however many ask His help, for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
i never understood the notion of once saved always saved. does this say that once a person is saved is always saved?
 
i never understood the notion of once saved always saved. does this say that once a person is saved is always saved?
It says that once justified by Christ, and part of God’s Adoption, a New Creation as Paul teaches in Corinthians ] … Christ will not abandon those whom the Father has given him. However, it does stipulate that New Creation continue to Abide in Christ til their last day [Perseverance].

W/O perseverance clause [taught by scripture] … it makes no sense. Man’s Free Will is always at play. Nevertheless, God is All Knowing, and knows who will persevere.
 
It says that once justified by Christ, and part of God’s Adoption, a New Creation as Paul teaches in Corinthians ] … Christ will not abandon those whom the Father has given him. However, it does stipulate that New Creation continue to Abide in Christ til their last day [Perseverance].

W/O perseverance clause [taught by scripture] … it makes no sense. Man’s Free Will is always at play. Nevertheless, God is All Knowing, and knows who will persevere.
I feel you are correct that Man’s free will is always at play. One of the biggest criticisms of once saved always saved is that it is a “license to sin.” In other words the person makes the profession and can live what ever lifestyle they want to. In my mind it does not line up with the parable of the sheep and the goats where the two lived together until the master separated them at the end and judged them. I know that it is hard to fathom but picture it this way, just being a Catholic does not assure you a place in Heaven either if you live a lifestyle of sin.

There are some who use the tem “loose your salvation” to mean that you can walk away from the gift of God to live in the old carnal ways of sin. The once saved always saved crowd explain this away by saying that when the person made the profession of faith, they never meant it in the first place. In my mind this is semantics as we are each called to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
 
I feel you are correct that Man’s free will is always at play. One of the biggest criticisms of once saved always saved is that it is a “license to sin.” In other words the person makes the profession and can live what ever lifestyle they want to. In my mind it does not line up with the parable of the sheep and the goats where the two lived together until the master separated them at the end and judged them. I know that it is hard to fathom but picture it this way, just being a Catholic does not assure you a place in Heaven either if you live a lifestyle of sin.

There are some who use the tem “loose your salvation” to mean that you can walk away from the gift of God to live in the old carnal ways of sin. The once saved always saved crowd explain this away by saying that when the person made the profession of faith, they never meant it in the first place. In my mind this is semantics as we are each called to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
Perhaps, but there seems to be a fundamental flaw with OSAS in that it precludes any idea of reconciliation which is also clearly in scripture. One can sin such that they would be damnable if they take no action to reconcile with God & Church, but that process should exist.

I wonder how a OSASer would deal with this, say your sinners prayer again? Is there no “once you’ve said it, your done” requirement?

While one might say the difference between OSAS and Faith + Works is sematics, I say that the misrepresentation found in OSAS is still problematic.
 
Perhaps, but there seems to be a fundamental flaw with OSAS in that it precludes any idea of reconciliation which is also clearly in scripture. One can sin such that they would be damnable if they take no action to reconcile with God & Church, but that process should exist.

I wonder how a OSASer would deal with this, say your sinners prayer again? Is there no “once you’ve said it, your done” requirement?

While one might say the difference between OSAS and Faith + Works is sematics, I say that the misrepresentation found in OSAS is still problematic.
I don’t see once saved precluding the idea of reconciliation at all. A once saved person will freely admit the need for daily confession as they sin all the time. The problem lies in that they do not think that a person who walks away from the church was ever saved to start with. It would be akin to some Roman Catholics whom I have ran across who believe that because of their profession in the Catholic church and confirmation that they can live any way they want and not attend church BUT one day go to confession and all will be made right. They are playing with hell fire if you ask me. Don’t get me wrong there are some Protestants in a similar boat.
 
I feel you are correct that Man’s free will is always at play. One of the biggest criticisms of once saved always saved is that it is a “license to sin.” In other words the person makes the profession and can live what ever lifestyle they want to. In my mind it does not line up with the parable of the sheep and the goats where the two lived together until the master separated them at the end and judged them. I know that it is hard to fathom but picture it this way, just being a Catholic does not assure you a place in Heaven either if you live a lifestyle of sin.

There are some who use the tem “loose your salvation” to mean that you can walk away from the gift of God to live in the old carnal ways of sin. The once saved always saved crowd explain this away by saying that when the person made the profession of faith, they never meant it in the first place. In my mind this is semantics as we are each called to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
Padrej,

Do you believe one can truly believe in Christ and accpt Christ, and be on the path of salvation, and then turn away and be separated from Christ?

How could one prophesy, cast out demons, and do mighty works in the name of Christ, if not on the path to salvation? It one departs from the path, does that mean an eternity without Christ?

**Matthew 7 (ESV): **21 "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

One must persevere:
**James 1: **12 Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him. 13Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

As you said, we are to work out our salvation in fear and trembling.
**Philippians 2: **11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

Anna
 
Padrej,

I really appreciate your response. I’m sorry it took so long to get back to you. My computer has a virus or something. So, I have to use the computer at the library for now. Not able to get here everyday.
Mark 6 7-13 tells of Jesus sending out the 12 disciples and Jesus gave them authority to preach and cast out demons. Verse 13 says “And they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many who were sick, and healed them.” Please keep in mind Judas was one of those 12. Jesus would later go on to call him the “son of Perdition” and say that “it was better that he would never had been born.” Clearly somewhere Judas allowed Satan to enter him and become separated from Christ. So to answer your first question bluntly you can be on the path of salvation and turn because Judas clearly was a prime example of this.

Further the Book of Hebrews tells us in chapter 6 verse 4-6 “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.” This says that you can taste the heavenly gifts and turn and fall away.
I really had not considered Judas as one falling away. I suppose he is the prime example of one who knew Christ and yet betrayed Him. I have always wondered about the fate of Judas. In Luke’s account, Satan entered Judas. Do you believe that a Christian can become possessed? Can we empty ourselves of God so completely that evil can enter and inhabit us?

Luke 22 (ESV): 3 Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve. 4 And Judas went to the chief priests and the officers of the temple guard and discussed with them how he might betray Jesus. 5 They were delighted and agreed to give him money. 6 He consented, and watched for an opportunity to hand Jesus over to them when no crowd was present.
Matthew 7 (ESV): 21 "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven. . . .
Excellent point on this one also. How many do you know who have an outward faith but their actions otherwise do not belay this? Just because a person sits in a church does not make then a Christian any more than sitting in a garage make them an automobile.
I agree. One can give an outward sign that is not consistent with the heart–which leads to yet another question: Can we be wrong about our own salvation? How do we know?
One must persevere: James 1: 12 Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him. . . .
You are absolutely correct we must each persevere. We must all endure every test that comes our way because that is what makes us stronger in our faith. If our faith was not tested we would have weak faith or no faith at all.
Yes, we are strengthened in our trials, if we truly submit to Christ.
In my mind working out your own salvation means that I cannot worry about what sister Bertha Better than You is doing any more than what sister Mary Holy Water is doing. They and their actions cannot bring me into the Kingdom of God, only I can do this. I cannot ride on my parents coat tail either. My faith is my own faith, if they want to act the fool, let them; let me live for God.
Interesting comment Padrej. I agree that we cannot ride the coat tail of someone else. Yet, as I am writing this, I am wondering about the Scripture that speaks of salvation of one’s household:

Acts 11: 13 And he told us how he had seen the angel stand in his house and say, ‘Send to Joppa and bring Simon who is called Peter; 14 he will declare to you a message by which you will be saved, you and all your household.’ 15 As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning.

Acts 16: 25 About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them, 26and suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken. And immediately all the doors were opened, and everyone’s bonds were unfastened. 27When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. 28But Paul cried with a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.” 29And the jailer called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas.

30Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family. 34Then he brought them up into his house and set food before them. And he rejoiced along with his entire household that he had believed in God.

What about salvation of a spouse?

**1 Corinthians 7: **15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Only let each person lead the life that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches.

It seems the Sinner’s Prayer cannot provide an assurance of salvation, only the beginning of salvation.

Anna
 
Yet, as I am writing this, I am wondering about the Scripture that speaks of salvation of one’s household:

Acts 11: 13 And he told us how he had seen the angel stand in his house and say, ‘Send to Joppa and bring Simon who is called Peter; 14 he will declare to you a message by which you will be saved, you and all your household.’ 15 As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning.

Acts 16: 25 About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them, 26and suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken. And immediately all the doors were opened, and everyone’s bonds were unfastened. 27When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. 28But Paul cried with a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.” 29And the jailer called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas.

30Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family. 34Then he brought them up into his house and set food before them. And he rejoiced along with his entire household that he had believed in God.

What about salvation of a spouse?

**1 Corinthians 7: **15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Only let each person lead the life that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches.

It seems the Sinner’s Prayer cannot provide an assurance of salvation, only the beginning of salvation.

Anna
Hi Anna. I’ve been away awhile also. After taking care of my dad I just got done with a three day retreat with 46 teenagers. :bigyikes: It was great. Anyway, the salvation of entire households and spouses is very interesting. I have always been taught that the main duty of one spouse to the other is to help them get to heaven. It made such sense that I’ve never questioned it enough to try and prove it scripturally.

As for entire households being saved, I think that is accomplished by the handing on of the faith to your children (or spouse and children), thereby co-operating with God in their salvation. When we baptize infants, both the parents and God-parents promise to bring the child up in the faith. It is an obligation we make before God. In addition, I think intercessory prayer does have an effect on those in the family who walk away. God hears our prayers and the tears of a mother or father for their children who walk away are a very strong prayer indeed. On the other hand, each of us must endure to the end. We may be helped along in our faith by the prayers and teachings of our families, churches and others, but it always boils down to our own decision to choose eternal life and persevere to the end.

“Through the grace of the sacrament of marriage, parents receive the responsibility and privilege of evangelizing their children. Parents should initiate their children at an early age into the mysteries of the faith of which they are the ‘first heralds’ for their children. …A wholesome family life can foster interior dispositions that are a genuine preparation for a living faith and remain a support for it throughout one’s life”. (CCC par. 2225)

By the way, I’ve had to order the books I promised you but expect to receive them soon. Can’t wait to get them to you.

God bless.

Steve
 
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Notice the wording “Satan entered Judas” if you look at the gospels in there entirety (I mean all 4 together) you get the picture that Judas starts to become disillusioned with Jesus that he was not going to be the military overthrow the Romans type of messiah that he wanted. You have to remember the Judas was of the class called a “Zealot” as was also Simon Peter, the Zealots wanted a David like messiah that would overthrow the oppressive Romans and establish the throne of David again. This did not happen on palm Sunday, Jesus came riding into town on a donkey (a sign of peace) not a war horse. Peter was willing to fight to the end as he drew the sword in the garden and cut of the servant of the High priest’s ear. But back to Judas and your question. John’s gospel mentions that Judas was a thief in John 12: 1-8, so somewhere there started to be a change in him to allow Satan to enter him. This bring me to the answer to your question of “Demon Possession”. I do not believe that a Christian can be possessed UNLESS they allow the demon access. Just as you must allow Jesus access to your heart so you must allow the demon access. We allow the demon access by the sinful practices that we do on a willful basis when we have no intention of stopping the action.
Very interesting comments on Judas, and the change in him over time, which opened a window for possession. I think you have identified a very critical risk for all Christians–which brings us back to the Evangelical view of instant and assured salvation upon praying the Sinner’s Prayer. I think the OSAS view attached to this prayer is a dangerous deception. Many are mislead to believe praying this prayer assures their place in Heaven, regardless of the life they live.
One of the things that I have learned from having a lot of Amish friends is that they believe that it is arrogant to say, “I know for certain that I am saved.” they feel because the Bible says that we have a sure and certain HOPE of resurrection that if you were to ask then, “are you saved,” they would respond, “I hope so” because they try daily to live their lives before the Lord working out their own salvation. I have wrestled with this question that you pose for years. There are passages that have already been quoted which I do not feel need to be repeated about confessing with you mouth and you shall be saved, but those MUST be accompanied by the works. Faith without works is dead. So to answer your question do we know if you are saved? Do your works show it? Jesus said, “they will know you are my disciples by your… LOVE.” The Greek word used there is “Agape” which is the unconditional John 3:16 love.
Well said. Indeed faith without works is dead. To love God and our fellowman is at the heart of the Christian walk.
In this context, The jailer must have taken him to his own house if you look at verse 32 as the word was preached to the whole house so the Gospel must have been readily received by all in the house.
NOW to this one, Let us say you are “unevenly yoked” with an unbeliever as the Bible speaks of. If you live your faith in front of that person, they will soon want what you have. Remember the words of St. Francis. “Preach the Gospel where ever you go and if you have to use words.”
Not all conversions happen by preaching.
Excellent explanation. This quote by St. Francis is one of my favorites.

Thank you Padrej,
Anna
 
Hi Anna. I’ve been away awhile also. After taking care of my dad I just got done with a three day retreat with 46 teenagers. :bigyikes: It was great.
Steve,
I pray your dad is doing well. Sounds like you have been really busy. I can’t imagine 46 teenagers. You are a very brave man. 😉
Anyway, the salvation of entire households and spouses is very interesting. I have always been taught that the main duty of one spouse to the other is to help them get to heaven. It made such sense that I’ve never questioned it enough to try and prove it scripturally.
I think I was misinterpreting the passages to mean one is saved, because the spouse is saved.
As for entire households being saved, I think that is accomplished by the handing on of the faith to your children (or spouse and children), thereby co-operating with God in their salvation. When we baptize infants, both the parents and God-parents promise to bring the child up in the faith. It is an obligation we make before God. In addition, I think intercessory prayer does have an effect on those in the family who walk away. God hears our prayers and the tears of a mother or father for their children who walk away are a very strong prayer indeed. On the other hand, each of us must endure to the end. We may be helped along in our faith by the prayers and teachings of our families, churches and others, but it always boils down to our own decision to choose eternal life and persevere to the end.
I agree that it does “boil down to our own decision to choose eternal life and persevere to the end.”

I have only recently accepted infant baptism. However, I’m still not quite clear on the idea of Confirmation and the point of actual acceptance of Christ. I think my Baptist upbringing and the idea of “alter calls” has left me feeling a bit awkward.

As I participate in the Sunday Episcopal services, I’m left wondering what people do, when they decide they want to accept Christ. Can you explain this from the Catholic perspective?
“Through the grace of the sacrament of marriage, parents receive the responsibility and privilege of evangelizing their children. Parents should initiate their children at an early age into the mysteries of the faith of which they are the ‘first heralds’ for their children. …A wholesome family life can foster interior dispositions that are a genuine preparation for a living faith and remain a support for it throughout one’s life”. (CCC par. 2225)
Indeed, we have a tremendous responsibility to our children. I am very concerned about my own son, who is graduating from University in May. He has decided he doesn’t believe Christ is the Son of God, or that He is part of the Trinity, or that he was born of a Virgin. He has extracted certain teachings of Christ and accepts them separately from His Divinity. He has fallen prey to the popular idea that all roads lead to heaven. Clearly they do not. We had another discussion when he was home for Spring Break last week. It breaks my heart. I just keep praying.
By the way, I’ve had to order the books I promised you but expect to receive them soon. Can’t wait to get them to you.
God bless.
I look forward to the books. You are very kind, Steve. No rush. You’ve got so much going on right now. 🙂

May God’s Peace be with you,
Anna
 
I think I was misinterpreting the passages to mean one is saved, because the spouse is saved.
I agree that it does “boil down to our own decision to choose eternal life and persevere to the end.”
Yeah, its a passage that could probably be used for OSAS if not placed in context with the rest of scripture. My personal opinion is that they were refering to babtism which would have cleansed them from all sin at the time they were baptised and therefore saved them at that point in time.
I have only recently accepted infant baptism. However, I’m still not quite clear on the idea of Confirmation and the point of actual acceptance of Christ. I think my Baptist upbringing and the idea of “alter calls” has left me feeling a bit awkward.

As I participate in the Sunday Episcopal services, I’m left wondering what people do, when they decide they want to accept Christ. Can you explain this from the Catholic perspective?
To receive the sacrament of Confirmation presupposes that one has accepted Christ, but that is not the purpose of the sacrament. This is misunderstood by a lot of Catholics as well. They believe this is their public proclamation that they have chosen Christ and the Catholic Church and have become adults in the Church. In fact, the sacrament is an action by God which completes what Baptism began. It is a strengthening and sealing in the Holy Spirit in which the gifts of Piety, Knowledge, Counsel, Wisdom, Understanding, Fortitude and Fear of the Lord are given. Something that may shed a little more light on the nature of this sacrament is that in the Eastern rite, the sacrament is administered to infants at the same time as Baptism and Eucharist, so it is definately not for the purpose of “accepting” Christ. This kind of goes back to the subject at hand, that the salvation of the child is accompished through the cooperation of the parents.

Don’t take this the wrong way though. We still have personal responsibility throughout our lives to live out our baptismal

Indeed, we have a tremendous responsibility to our children. I am very concerned about my own son, who is graduating from University in May. He has decided he doesn’t believe Christ is the Son of God, or that He is part of the Trinity, or that he was born of a Virgin. He has extracted certain teachings of Christ and accepts them separately from His Divinity. He has fallen prey to the popular idea that all roads lead to heaven. Clearly they do not. We had another discussion when he was home for Spring Break last week. It breaks my heart. I just keep praying.

I look forward to the books. You are very kind, Steve. No rush. You’ve got so much going on right now. 🙂

May God’s Peace be with you,
Anna
 
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