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ChristinaM
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Agree with this statement. I’m in an engineering discipline and most of these small Catholic colleges that CAFers are talking up are liberal arts schools. It’s frustrating, because I feel that the Catholic students who want to major in science or engineering are being ignored. The fact of the matter is, you need infrastructure and LOTS of funding to have a successful engineering program, which most of these colleges don’t have.
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Lepanto
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Electrical engineering is agnostic. Why not go just to one of the “prestigious” engineering schools?
Who needs ND for electrical engineering?
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ChristinaM
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Maybe because these students, even though they are majoring in an “agnostic” discipline, want a Catholic school experience? Is it really fair to deny it to them because they don’t want to major in theology and philosophy?
Look, Notre Dame has problems, but the constant ND bashing is getting old. God Himself would have spared Sodom for the sake of ten righteous men. There are many more than ten faithful Catholics here on campus! I’m just as frustrated as anyone over the mindless applause over Obama at Commencement. I myself question whether ND is going to take a turn for the worse or a turn for the better after this. I know I’ve said before on these forums, out of frustration, that I would not send my child to ND. But there is a significant and faithful remnant at ND, and they would be the ones who would be most hurt by a “stripping” of ND’s Catholic identity.
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Rach620
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Notre Dame’s undergraduate engineering program is still different from secular schools’ because the students here are at least grounded in the core curriculum AND have the option of double majoring in engineering and theology or philosophy. I know several who have done it, and it requires a fifth year to complete both majors, but they are committed to their studies in both theology/philosophy AND engineering. I could never do it!
As for the core curriculum–at ND, you don’t enter your major’s college (ie, Arts & Letters, Science, Engineering, etc.) until your second year. The first year is spent in the First Year of Studies, in a required liberal arts seminar, first-year philosophy and theology courses, and other electives in the humanities. And the six required credits of each philosophy and theology are relatively unheard-of at schools such as Notre Dame, even as some would like to bash them as ‘not enough’. Sure, more is always better, but when the alternative at the vast majority of American universities is NO requirement to study philosophy and theology, let alone study it with some of the best faculty in these disciplines in the country, I’d say ND should escape too much criticism in this area.
I know many solid faculty who intentionally seek to teach these courses so that their orthodox classes will reach a larger portion of the undergraduate student body. In past semesters I have seen multiple courses on the theology of marriage/theology of the body, Catholic teaching on life issues, etc. taught as second-level courses available to any undergrad who wants to take them.
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Catholic20064
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Interesting – Steubenville doesn’t list it as a major they offer.My brother has an Electrical Engineering degree from Steubenville.
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