Purgatory

antiSatan5 said:
I don't u/stand this sentence
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Her unfaithful husband shot himself in the brainstem in front of their dog. The lady eventually had to have surgery on her female parts because her late husband had given her VD. She began hemorrhaging after the surgery, and bled out so much she had a temporary death experience.
 
antiSatan5 said:
well, it isn't really silly. I still have a fear of going to Hell, not because I'm in mortal sin bc I gave that up many many years ago, but just bc Jesus said that Few find the narrow way. . and that many will attempt to enter Heaven but will not be able to. I still feel guilt about past sins, even though I've confessed them and expiated them to some extent. Plus, the Accuser of the Brethren is always there making sure you remember all your sins... Dirtbag! As they say, when he reminds you of your past, you can remind him of his future. In Revelation it says that eventually Satan and the demons will be tormented just like the ones they helped to damn. . and for equally as long a time.
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We have a "sure hope" of eternal salvation (Hebrews 6:19). And, it is good to remember that hope builds on faith. Yet, both fall sort of love, which is the greatest of the virtues (1 Corinthians 13:13). So, work on love, go to adoration, bear charitable witness to others, keep up on your Sacraments and there is nothing to worry about. Hope. It is a wonderful thing and hope does not disappoint (Romans 5:3-5).
 
HomeschoolDad said:
As I noted above, the scientific consensus is that the sun will last a whole lot longer than 10,000 years.
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God's problem, not mine. We just pray for the Poor Souls in Purgatory/Restoration, and let God worry about the rest.

The angels told the lady in question that her late husband would be in Restoration for 10k earth years.
 
OK, so I guess we should call us "Restoratory" (sigh)
Although "restoration" implies that, at some point in his life, he was perfect. In a state of grace, perhaps, but perfect? Hmmm.
 
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po18guy said:
We have a "sure hope" of eternal salvation (Hebrews 6:19). And, it is good to remember that hope builds on faith. Yet, both fall sort of love, which is the greatest of the virtues (1 Corinthians 13:13). So, work on love, go to adoration, bear charitable witness to others, keep up on your Sacraments and there is nothing to worry about. Hope. It is a wonderful thing and hope does not disappoint (Romans 5:3-5).
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I do those things, except that I have been discouraged from going to Adoration. There are infiltrators in the Church and they don't like traditional Catholics, have their ways of pushing them away... long story..
 
Cloisters said:
Her unfaithful husband shot himself in the brainstem in front of their dog. The lady eventually had to have surgery on her female parts because her late husband had given her VD. She began hemorrhaging after the surgery, and bled out so much she had a temporary death experience.
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Thanks for explaining.. I think.

weird stuff going on in the world. People need Jesus but he is being kept away from us. As I just now said in another post, I myself feel I'm being run out of the novus ordo church because I am a traditionalist. The infiltrators of the Church run the thing.. no point in trying to ignore that fact. And they play favorites w/ the Church-goers. I am not one of them. I'm praying about this but I am very discouraged.
 
antiSatan5 said:
Thanks for explaining.. I think.

weird stuff going on in the world. People need Jesus but he is being kept away from us. As I just now said in another post, I myself feel I'm being run out of the novus ordo church because I am a traditionalist. The infiltrators of the Church run the thing.. no point in trying to ignore that fact. And they play favorites w/ the Church-goers. I am not one of them. I'm praying about this but I am very discouraged.
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Seek out a traditional Catholic priest and tell him everything you've told us here. And attend the Traditional Latin Mass if you can.
 
antiSatan5 said:
I do those things, except that I have been discouraged from going to Adoration. There are infiltrators in the Church and they don't like traditional Catholics, have their ways of pushing them away... long story..
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There is only Catholic.
 
po18guy said:
There is only Catholic.
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My reality says otherwise. Jesus said that few find the Narrow Way. Most people live for this world, getting comfortable in it-- and to get comfortable in it, you have to make compromises (to the Faith).. over and over and over.. So I am not surprised that even most "catholics" don't make it, as Jesus implies (and the saints confirm).

There is a passage in the Bible about people trying to get into Heaven after "the master" has shut the door on them. They say Let us in... We ate and drank IN YOUR PRESENCE [emphasis added], and You taught in our streets."

Those are things JESUS did. What's the great accomplishment of being in the Real Presence, if you leave there and do not OBEY Jesus's every word?

If you think there are no Catholics in Hell.... not so
 
HomeschoolDad said:
Seek out a traditional Catholic priest and tell him everything you've told us here. And attend the Traditional Latin Mass if you can.
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yeh, if I can. Well, I will try again but so far, things are not so great bc of my location. Also, I have issues about driving a long way but again, I will check into the possibility AGAIN. The thing is, I am being persecuted by fake Catholic people... it's a long, weird story and you likely would not believe me if I told you the details, but in any case, EVERY 'branch' of the Church has been infested w/ fake Catholics who pretend to be such so that they can.. what else? Destroy Christ's True Religion. Anyone who thinks the infiltrators only infiltrated the Vatican and its novus ordo satelllites is being naive.. I was about to say something else but I doubt you'd believe it
 
antiSatan5 said:
yeh, if I can. Well, I will try again but so far, things are not so great bc of my location. Also, I have issues about driving a long way but again, I will check into the possibility AGAIN. The thing is, I am being persecuted by fake Catholic people... it's a long, weird story and you likely would not believe me if I told you the details, but in any case, EVERY 'branch' of the Church has been infested w/ fake Catholics who pretend to be such so that they can.. what else? Destroy Christ's True Religion. Anyone who thinks the infiltrators only infiltrated the Vatican and its novus ordo satelllites is being naive.. I was about to say something else but I doubt you'd believe it
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I've been persecuted by bad Catholics (whether they are "fake" or not, I'll leave that between them and Almighty God) almost as long as I've been in the Church (48 years), and I've never known anything different. Only in the traditionalist movement (and, to be fair, amongst very conservative Novus Ordo adherents, in the years before the TLM was as widespread as it is now) have I found peace and acceptance.

Thankfully I became a Catholic because I came to be convinced of the truth of her teachings, not because of the people. The teachings in the books are what won me over, the sacraments, the Real Presence, and the traditional magisterium are what kept me in it (as well as extra ecclesiam nulla salus). Not the people. Not the "love". And certainly not "having been raised to believe in it". With the grace of God and the gift of faith, I did it all on my own.
 
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antiSatan5 said:
My reality says otherwise. Jesus said that few find the Narrow Way. Most people live for this world, getting comfortable in it-- and to get comfortable in it, you have to make compromises (to the Faith).. over and over and over.. So I am not surprised that even most "catholics" don't make it, as Jesus implies (and the saints confirm).

There is a passage in the Bible about people trying to get into Heaven after "the master" has shut the door on them. They say Let us in... We ate and drank IN YOUR PRESENCE [emphasis added], and You taught in our streets."

Those are things JESUS did. What's the great accomplishment of being in the Real Presence, if you leave there and do not OBEY Jesus's every word?

If you think there are no Catholics in Hell.... not so
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I imply no such thing! Catholic this or Catholic that is division and division, like hate, is very strongly appealing to our wounded souls. There are numerous Eastern Rite Catholics who do not and have never celebrated a Latin mass. Like us Novus Ordo types, are they children of a lesser God?
 
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