Puzzling over all who claim to feel Christ's presence but do not live like saints

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PRmerger said:
Ah.

So you don’t believe that God is watching us?
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I guess that’s right. I pray for such belief, and wish for it, and hold out hope. I live the kind of life I think I would if I DID believe.

More than that, though, I think that the overwhelming majority of the people who claim they believe don’t actually (they can say all the words and hit themselves with their intellectual cat-o-nine-tails all they want) - hence the initial query. I think they’re in denial about it, though, and trying to convince themselves it’s true as hard as they are trying to convince others.
 
PRmerger said:
Ah.

So you don’t believe that God is watching us?
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Watching and present with us. Do you feel He is beside you, watching and guiding? Would we see the amazing fruits of the Holy Spirit ripening in your life if we were to meet you? Do you really always drive like the radar gun is pointed at you?
 
Neoplatonist said:
Watching and present with us. Do you feel He is beside you, watching and guiding? Would we see the amazing fruits of the Holy Spirit ripening in your life if we were to meet you? Do you really always drive like the radar gun is pointed at you?
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What about driving as if the radar gun is inside you, in fact, IS in you?
 
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God is love and light.
When you feel Him close, you may know yourself to be completely understood and loved or you may see all the dirt.
It is like the sun on a windshield. If it is clear, the entire world comes to life. Winter salt prevents you from seeing anything but muck; the sun will blind you.
Interestingly, when we are smug, He reveals the brokenness, and when we feel most damaged, He consoles and shares with us His love.
This is all in the service of becoming more Christ-like, growing in the Way.
Bottom line is that God is here right now. That is why we are in existence.
Within the experience you are having is God Himself. Follow the yearning for what is missing.
I don’t get this radar gun analogy. It is a matter of just being oneself and giving of oneself.
When we sin, by our confession and repentance, Christ willingly in His infinite love, takes it all upon Himself that we may be saved.
 
Neoplatonist said:
I guess that’s right. I pray for such belief, and wish for it, and hold out hope. I live the kind of life I think I would if I DID believe.

More than that, though, I think that the overwhelming majority of the people who claim they believe don’t actually (they can say all the words and hit themselves with their intellectual cat-o-nine-tails all they want) - hence the initial query. I think they’re in denial about it, though, and trying to convince themselves it’s true as hard as they are trying to convince others.
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Neoplatonist said:
Watching and present with us. Do you feel He is beside you, watching and guiding? Would we see the amazing fruits of the Holy Spirit ripening in your life if we were to meet you? Do you really always drive like the radar gun is pointed at you?
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Then I suppose you are a Deist, rather than a Catholic.
 
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