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GaryTaylor
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Great post Gabe. I have all the writtings from the early 60’s from the KGB who defected to the USA and what they had to say about the ROC and Communism which is rated at 95% accurate “today”. But yes this is where the issues lie.The mechanical age ushered in Communism, which removed God from their public societies and tried to breach the Catholic Church especially in Orthodoxy’s private devotion to God, which went underground. These societies such as these lacked the growth of faith in God during this period of the mechanical age which removed God.
All the while the Catholic Church’s apostolic doctrines were being challenged because of mans own self enlightenment challenged God’s existence among the human race.
While Orthodoxy entered martyrdom and persecution during the mechanical age and rise of communism, from their beloved martyrs who soiled the ground from communism planted the seed of Christians. During this time the Catholic Church with the assistance of angels followed by signs and wonders from heaven, refuted man’s new doctrine, that God does not intervene among humans. To which the Peter exclaimed the “Immaculate Conception” heaven confirmed with signs and wonders proving God dwells with the human race.
Now that the Marian Pope proclaimed to the face of communism, “do not be afraid, It is OK to believe in God”, followed by signs which tumbled the walls of communism, freed Orthodoxy and when she breathed the fresh air of freedom, finds herself faced with what she misunderstands to be defined and defended apostolic doctrine in understanding, in the free world, for a “changed doctrine”.
That is why Orthodoxy grabs at an end result, leading to confusion of interpretations of what has been defined against heresy, while she suffered persecution underground, the Catholic Church also suffered martyrs and persecution in the battle field. One recent example is the Marian Pope was shot by this beastly mindset.
Thus the Orthodox, from my interactions with them, have yet to correctly understand or protest the correct definitions of Infallibility, Immaculate conception, purgatory, sin, abortion, marriage defended by the Popes and magisterium, and are quick to deny them or protest them with contradictory reasons and false assumptions from which “they” the Orthodox falsely claim what has been defined and clarified from the Popes and magisterium to an unbelieving and denying world, whilst they remained underground.
History repeats itself here, from the early centuries as the West grew in secular powers as the East declined in secular powers, the Eastern secular powers resisted the Orthodox church to be in communion with the Popes who appointing their enemies as Kings and princesses. A defense of the apostolic faith is made against these growing powers from the Popes, while the Orthodox remained in check from their secular powers. Leaving the Popes and magisterium to battle for the Apostolic Catholic faith. So much so at times, that the Eastern emperors refused visas for their patriarchs to leave their dioceses to council with the Western Catholic church.
In summary the schism of interpretation of revealed doctrine is not the only reason upholding this schism. Secular powers and politics plays an important role from its inception and to today. The political world is fearful of a One United world wide Catholic Church from both the East and Western societies. Some consensus think that this would bring Christians together, on the contrary, it will bring brother against brother, son against father. If the world is not understanding the peace between the two, and jump to false conclusions that their non catholic societies will become an endangered species.
Dialogue is important so as to grasp each understanding, view point without the negative assumptions of the result to be clarified and understood correctly. If peace is truly sought without holding to political worldly structures governing them and influencing communities in Orthodoxy politically. Orthodoxy would have no problem recognizing Jesus building his church upon Peter, so long as their political influences understand that the Pope is not a threat to their economies or political structures, and that their subjects and peoples do not have to be subject to the Popes and magisterium only in faith and morals.
Try explaining this to the Orthodox, and they defend their local “autocephalous” church authority as being separated and independent from Peter’s chair, when it is "faith and morals that is at stake here in doctrine and authority, not their economy, culture, church authority over their flock. Again false assumtions aimed at a result.
The church was ran by the Kremlin and KGB, and not ONE Bishop was elected without Communist approval? So what truth do they have?
But I’ll tell you this, we haven’t defeated communism yet. So the ROC has much to suffer still. The look of captialism is just to lul the west into a state of being unprepaired. Then real war and enslavement will be the call of the day. Islam is used as a puppet, not that real demonic forces don’t exist their. But the real issue lies in communism especially with Red China becoming as strong as they now are.
God Bless, Gary