This is how it’s done at my former parish back home. They use both those hymnals, and some song the deacon composed.
CBWIII is good in that it has lost some of the 60s & early70s trash but it has gender neutral language which sets my teeth on edge, not to mention that they’ve gutted some traditional hymns so that they lyrics are now unfamiliar. We have both II & III in our pews (no G&P) and go back and forth between the two. Sadly, we usually go to II for the ‘feel good’ stuff rather than the traditional stuff.This is how it’s done at my former parish back home. They use both those hymnals, and some song the deacon composed.
I will say, I was shocked when CBWIII made an appearance at Easter while I was at a TLM.
I used to be able to tolerate the CBWIII because it at least contained some hymns, but it got put into my bad books when I discovered it contains “Gather Us In.” Traitor.
With all the Kindle, Ipod, Ipad, and Iphone technology, we’ll probably be going more and more paperless soon. At least with the Jubilate Deo we won’t have to worry about royalty fees and such.
Been to that church before. Most beautiful church I’ve ever seen, and most reverent priest and congregation I’ve ever had the pleasure of being the presence of.
Don’t hold your breath. Copied or Kindled, JB ain’t gonna happen. Chant isn’t going to make it into the majority of parishes at all.
I’m assuming it creates more work for them, they have to learn new music, can’t use many of the older familiar settings, now they’re really forced to not use gender-neutral pronouns, the Gloria is awkward with the “We Praise you. We bless you. We adore you. We glorify you.”
I dunno… maybe its too hard to sing?
Not to worry, I’m too much of a realist to disagree with you. But I also know there are many alternate choices to participation with the new English translations/music or the old ones for that matter. No one should feel he or she is stuck with them.Don’t hold your breath. Copied or Kindled, JB ain’t gonna happen. Chant isn’t going to make it into the majority of parishes at all.
The Mass settings will change, but in parishes like mine we will still hear the Hit Parade of Haugen and Hass throughout the Mass (entrance, offertory, communion, recessional). In my parish, we are stuck – remove the “t” from stuck and you’ll know what I think of that.
Don’t you have Spanish or Polish or French Masses near you? Chicago alone has something like 24 different vernacular languages so those who prefer not to attend an English Mass have plenty of alternate choices. Even if you can’t understand the language, you probably will do okay understanding the Mass and their music and may even like it. There is no civil law in the U.S. that says you must only go to an English Mass. Just saying.We have eight Masses (and eight choirs), only one of which does traditional hymns – though no Gregorian chant, but the rest “perform” what can be kindly referred to as The Lion King Mass Settings.
The OP, in a Canadian parish, asked about the Mass setting rather than the translation. I know that the 3 Mass settings being foisted on Canadians are not good and many choirs are going to have a hard time getting the assembly to sing those. The ICEL chant setting is a good option, if only they chose to use it.
ok well I’ll just say they need to make these changes we all have to deal with it.I’m assuming it creates more work for them, they have to learn new music, can’t use many of the older familiar settings, now they’re really forced to not use gender-neutral pronouns, the Gloria is awkward with the “We Praise you. We bless you. We adore you. We glorify you.”
I don’t know the exact reason. A lot of people just don’t like change.
The main reason why the choir directors I know are not really happy is because the new translation music isn’t very pretty.
Actually, in spite of our parish’s choice to use the Mass of the Most Holy Trinity, we are also incorporating some great Latin chant into the Mass. This is our chance - hooray!If it’s so terrible, and everyone agrees it’s terrible, then why not just learn the old the Latin chants and use Gregorian Chant instead? Really, it makes no sense to me. Both the choir and the congregation has to learn new music anyway, and I’m sure there are some people who at the very least kinda sorta remember the Latin chants, which is more than what can be said about the new Mass settings, so why not just use Latin???
Try high school choir directors. In our school district the standards for high school choirs include sacred music and my daughter learned most of Jubilate Deo last year in an advance choir.
ok I see now, I’m pretty blessed to be where I am for the Mass Changes, the liturgy here is amazing and the fact that there are mostly seminarians and monks at every mass, there won’t be much of an issue for us. My home parish as well won’t have as big of an issue just because mainly the liturgy is on the high side at my old home parish. But I can think of a few parishes who will struggle through these translations, and from stories I have heard from my seminarian brothers, I can imagine there could be some serious back lash from parishioners who don’t like change.
I’ve been to Spanish-language Masses, and the music was terrible (it made me grateful for what I’ve heard in English–language Masses
). I plan on attending an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy in a couple of weeks – and that is at least a 30-minute drive from my parish.We have a fairly large Catholic school in our neighboring parish. As far as I can tell, Gregorian chant isn’t part of the program (though that may have changed). The public schools can’t even do Christmas music, and I’m not sure that they would have much luck with Catholic sacred music. Plus, I don’t want to hear sacred music at a high school choir performance – I want to hear it at Mass.
