Race in America: Two Opposing Narratives

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otjm said:
As of July 14, there have been 65 deaths in the line of duty, including the above; 5 of the 65 are Covid-19 deaths; with another 53 cases pending and not included in the total.
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Cool, cops die like everyone else. That doesn’t mean there isn’t systemic racism.
 
As the OP’s question does not address one of the issues which started the protests and allegedly the riots - Excessive Use of Force, perhaps someone may wish to start a thread on the matter.

Across the nation we see demands made by activists and statements made by jurisdictions to reduce police force; Seattle as of yesterday had a majority of the city council stating they were going to cut the budget for police by 50%., and some jurisdictions have been calling for the elimination of police.

Given that Camden, New Jersey is a city which actually did do so in 2013 - in a planned fashion (Politico did a very good report on it), but it needs to be a different thread.

 
This video is long and I haven’t heard it all, but about 8 minutes in, she starts talking about these things:
 
Anrakyr said:
Cool, cops die like everyone else. That doesn’t mean there isn’t systemic racism.
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Please reread your posted comment. We are all typing quickly, and sometimes without thinking clearly - at least I do. It sounds - please tell me I am wrong - as if you really care nothing about the death of the police

As for “systemic racism” there is no excuse for not obeying God, who demands that we love and forgive our enemies.
 
annem said:
as if you really care nothing about the death of the police
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I care they are human, I don’t care because their deaths are being used to muddy the water of this discussion. The cops dying is bad but immaterial here.
annem said:
there is no excuse for not obeying God, who demands that we love and forgive our enemies.
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Sure there are, not being Christian, feeling like there’s no other way, frustration.
 
Anrakyr said:
You aren’t racist because you’re white. What you are is privileged.
You can pass as an innocent civilian at a glance. You don’t carry the stereotypes over your head.
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So, where did the stereotypes come from?
 
Anrakyr said:
You aren’t racist because you’re white. What you are is privileged.
You can pass as an innocent civilian at a glance. You don’t carry the stereotypes over your head.
Now can you invoke a negative one by your dress and how you hold yourself? Of course but that is not your skin.
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What people are wearing (of any race) may influence the degree to which others see them as threatening. Age may also play a part.
 
The Revolutionary Narratives are labelled progressives
The Preservation Narratives are labelled conservatives

Because humanity is a melting pot of many different, races & beliefs, it is easy to label & compartmentalize into sections & sub-sections.

The biggest difference we can make is that we move from individual races to an entire species. The questions, ideas & strategies will change with this type of narrative. We are one species with different races & all the races need to be considered as one human species.

There is far too much division when labels are applied such as right or left, dem or rep etc. it should not matter in the slightest what ideology you favor, it should only matter what is best for the entire species.
 
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Shasta-Rose said:
So, where did the stereotypes come from?
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If you’re referring to racial stereotypes, it can come from lots of places.

Many believed black people who more likely to be addicted to drugs and have broken families, when they migrated from the South to the North. Statistically speaking though, this wasn’t true back then. It was just another racist sentiment.

You also have deliberate attempts to create these stereotypes. Below is the infamous quote from someone who worked for Nixon.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or blacks, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

This wasn’t to say the war on drugs was 100% racially motivated, but it shows how these stereotypes come about in the first place
 
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That is an interesting quote; could you share the source and context (book or article or interview).
Thanks,
jt
 
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