Ralphy's Questions for Catholics

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ralphy said:
You have ALL the scripture in the bible. Ralph
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While I will agree that Scripture is in fact the Bible, I asked you where it said ONLY Scripture. But since I have been reading this thread for a while now, I do not expect an answer from you for two reasons. The first being that you have yet to answer any of the questions given you. The second, and probably more important, is that it’s not there. No where in the Bible does it say Scripture ONLY.
 
Shannon9791 said:
While I will agree that Scripture is in fact the Bible, I asked you where it said ONLY Scripture. But since I have been reading this thread for a while now, I do not expect an answer from you for two reasons. The first being that you have yet to answer any of the questions given you. The second, and probably more important, is that it’s not there. No where in the Bible does it say Scripture ONLY.
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I know what it does say, “not by tradition”, thats in the bible Ralph
 
ralphy said:
I know what it does say, “not by tradition”, thats in the bible Ralph
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Actually it does say to follow the tradition as well, Ralphy. And it also says the written word does not contain all the teachings as there wouldn’t be enough room in the world for the writings. But I imagine you threw those verses out also? We really wouldn’t mind helping you learn something about the Bible if you really wanted to learn.
it would be better than throwing childish baseless insults around and giggling to yourself.
 
sodak said:
Are you claiming that the Catholic bible is the correct one?

Now you have a decision to make. You have 2 different Bibles. They both cannot be right. How do you know which one is the correct one?
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I will do some research on the extra books found in the Roman catholic bible to see why they are not contained in my bible and by whose authority they were removed. Ralph
 
twb1621 said:
Actually it does say to follow the tradition as well, Ralphy. And it also says the written word does not contain all the teachings as there wouldn’t be enough room in the world for the writings. But I imagine you threw those verses out also?
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I believe that statement “follow the tradition” is refering to written tradition, not oral tradition. Ralph
 
ralphy said:
I believe that statement “follow the tradition” is refering to written tradition, not oral tradition. Ralph
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Ralphy, you’re sinkin bro. What you need to do is really look at all the information that has been given to you in these past days and realize that everything you have said or tried to say has been refuted biblically. I don’t know what else it’s going to take for you. Let me ask you a question though. What did the early church do before anything was written?
 
ralphy said:
I believe that statement “follow the tradition” is refering to written tradition, not oral tradition. Ralph
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No ralphy, your wrong.
15 “Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.” Either, Ralphy…

and

John CH 21; 25 "…There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written. "
 
ralphy said:
Matt 15:1-9 talks about the traditions of men. Ralph
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In 1 Cor 11:2 St. Paul specifically says to hold to traditions as he handed them on. Where does it say anything about only believing in scripture? It couldn’t possibly say anything like that because at that time, the new testament wasn’t even written yet.
 
ralphy said:
Yes I read what I recieve. You use a lot of old testament, we now have a new covenent in Jesus’s Blood. Things have changed, Christ has made a way for us to come directly to Himself. We don’t need rituals and ceremonies and priests, cardinals, popes, or even a building. If we are saved ,we have the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide and direct us in our walk with Him. He is the foundation, the author and finisher of our life, He is all we need for salvation. I am so pleased I know Him in a personal way, Praise His name. Ralph
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As far as your disregard of the Old Covenant is concerned and the following of the New Covenant you might want to consider this from the New Covenant;

Acts CH 17; 24 The God who made the world and all that is in it, the Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in sanctuaries made by human hands, 25 nor is he served by human hands because he needs anything. Rather it is he who gives to everyone life and breath and everything. 26 He made from one 8 the whole human race to dwell on the entire surface of the earth, and he fixed the ordered seasons and the boundaries of their regions, 27 so that people might seek God, even perhaps grope for him and find him, though indeed he is not far from any one of us. 28 For ‘In him we live and move and have our being,’ 9 as even some of your poets have said, ‘For we too are his offspring.’ 29 Since therefore we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the divinity is like an image fashioned from gold, silver, or stone by human art and imagination. 30 God has overlooked the times of ignorance, but now he demands that all people everywhere repent 31 because he has established a day on which he will ‘judge the world with justice’ through a man he has appointed, and he has provided confirmation for all by raising him from the dead."
 
ralphy said:
Matt 15:1-9 talks about the traditions of men. Ralph
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This verse has nothing to do with the Traditions referred to in the teachings of Jesus through the Apostles…

in all sincerity, why don’t you drop the sarcastic attitude and allow people to help you learn. Many here would be willing to give their time to you to answer legitimate questions if you truely cared enough to learn.
 
Anyone remember the verse about the Ethopian and Phillip? I believe its in Matthew, but I could be wrong.

Found it, it was in Acts 8:27-31
So he got up and set out.
Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch,
a court official of the Candace,
that is, the queen of the Ethiopians,
in charge of her entire treasury,
who had come to Jerusalem to worship, and was returning home.
Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
The Spirit said to Philip,
“Go and join up with that chariot.”
Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said,
**“Do you understand what you are reading?” **
He replied,
“How can I, unless someone instructs me?”
So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

(my bold)
 
twb1621 said:
This verse has nothing to do with the Traditions referred to in the teachings of Jesus through the Apostles…

in all sincerity, why don’t you drop the sarcastic attitude and allow people to help you learn. Many here would be willing to give their time to you to answer legitimate questions if you truely cared enough to learn.
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Some years ago a good friend gave me his definition of humility. It’s simply the willingness to learn. Not bad.
 
twb1621 said:
As far as your disregard of the Old Covenant is concerned and the following of the New Covenant you might want to consider this from the New Covenant;

Acts CH 17; 24 The God who made the world and all that is in it, the Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in sanctuaries made by human hands, 25 nor is he served by human hands because he needs anything. Rather it is he who gives to everyone life and breath and everything. 26 He made from one 8 the whole human race to dwell on the entire surface of the earth, and he fixed the ordered seasons and the boundaries of their regions, 27 so that people might seek God, even perhaps grope for him and find him, though indeed he is not far from any one of us. 28 For ‘In him we live and move and have our being,’ 9 as even some of your poets have said, ‘For we too are his offspring.’ 29 Since therefore we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the divinity is like an image fashioned from gold, silver, or stone by human art and imagination. 30 God has overlooked the times of ignorance, but now he demands that all people everywhere repent 31 because he has established a day on which he will ‘judge the world with justice’ through a man he has appointed, and he has provided confirmation for all by raising him from the dead."
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Part of your statement “does not live in sanctuaries made by human hands”, I was told that Jesus is in the Roman catholic church in the Tabernacle and that is why when you enter the church you must bow your knee to Him. Is this true? Ralph
 
allhers said:
Anyone remember the verse about the Ethopian and Phillip? I believe its in Matthew, but I could be wrong.

Found it, it was in Acts 8:27-31
So he got up and set out.
Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch,
a court official of the Candace,
that is, the queen of the Ethiopians,
in charge of her entire treasury,
who had come to Jerusalem to worship, and was returning home.
Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
The Spirit said to Philip,
“Go and join up with that chariot.”
Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said,
**“Do you understand what you are reading?” **
He replied,
“How can I, unless someone instructs me?”
So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

(my bold)
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Go a few verses further and you will see that the eunuch got baptised “after” he got saved, by immersion in the water. Ralph
 
ralphy said:
Go a few verses further and you will see that the eunuch got baptised “after” he got saved, by immersion in the water. Ralph
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I know you probably feel like we’re coming at you from all angles here, ralph. Again, I commend you for atleast “trying” to keep up with all of us as we engage you in dialogue. But allhers was not addressing baptism here…but rather the need for authentic human teaching regarding Scripture. What do you make of this biblical event of the Eunich who could read, but not understand?
 
ralphy said:
Part of your statement “does not live in sanctuaries made by human hands”, I was told that Jesus is in the Roman catholic church in the Tabernacle and that is why when you enter the church you must bow your knee to Him. Is this true? Ralph
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This was Paul addressing non-believing Athenians, who had an altar inscribed to “an unknown God”. They were idol worshipers. They were not a Catholic Church with a consecrated Host in a Tabernacle. Paul was asserting for them the Divine Providence of God, that He is not some inanimate object, or figment of the imagination. This has nothing to do with the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
 
ralphy said:
Go a few verses further and you will see that the eunuch got baptised “after” he got saved, by immersion in the water. Ralph
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How about if you read this whole thing and point out the word “saved” to me?

Acts 8:26-40

Then the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip,
“Get up and head south on the road
that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza, the desert route.”
So he got up and set out.
Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch,
a court official of the Candace,
that is, the queen of the Ethiopians,
in charge of her entire treasury,
who had come to Jerusalem to worship, and was returning home.
Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
The Spirit said to Philip,
“Go and join up with that chariot.”
Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said,
“Do you understand what you are reading?”
He replied,
“How can I, unless someone instructs me?”
So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.
This was the Scripture passage he was reading:

"Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before its shearer is silent,
so he opened not his mouth.
In (his) humiliation justice was denied him.
Who will tell of his posterity?
For his life is taken from the earth. "

Then the eunuch said to Philip in reply,
“I beg you, about whom is the prophet saying this?
About himself, or about someone else?”
Then Philip opened his mouth and, beginning with this Scripture passage,
he proclaimed Jesus to him.
As they traveled along the road
they came to some water,
and the eunuch said, “Look, there is water.
What is to prevent my being baptized?”
Then he ordered the chariot to stop,
and Philip and the eunuch both went down into the water,
and he baptized him.
When they came out of the water,
the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away,
and the eunuch saw him no more,
but continued on his way rejoicing.
Philip came to Azotus, and went about proclaiming the good news
to all the towns until he reached Caesarea.

Now, the discussion was about not understanding the written word without instruction so that was why I pointed that part out and bolded it.

This is yet another thing I do not understand about those who claim to go by the Bible only. (Seems to me you are the one saying something that it doesn’t say at all ralphy.) Adding to, and that is what you, and others like you, accuse us Catholics of all the time.
 
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