Ralphy's Questions for Catholics

[CentralFLJames]

First of all, I am in the catholic church, I am just not in the "Roman"catholic church. I am a born again christian and if I had stayed in the “Roman” catholic church I never would have been saved, as I was never taught how to be saved, only how to be a Roman cathoilc [SP]. Now I can follow the Bible and know where I am going and doing, guided by the Holy Spirit. Ralph

What is the street address of your so called catholic church? Does your preacher have a divine priestly anointing? Who laid hands on him? Was it somone with real apostolic authority or was it just somone who wanted to shake his hand when he signed the “preacher” contract for the church and agreed to teach the doctrines that the church owners or corporation board of directors wanted him to teach in exchange for the job and salary?

Ralph, why don’t you republish the bible and get rid of all the Catholic verses that refute your personal beliefs? I think if you did that Ralphy’s Catholic Church bible would contain less than 100 protestant-verses. Then you could carry around onlt the “important vereses” in a little fact booklet in your shirt pocket rather than a big bulky bible.

James

 

[Tomster]

What is the street address of your so called catholic church? Does your preacher have a divine priestly anointing? Who laid hands on him? Was it somone with real apostolic authority or was it just somone who wanted to shake his hand when he signed the “preacher” contract for the church and agreed to teach the doctrines that the church owners or corporation board of directors wanted him to teach in exchange for the job and salary?

Ralph, why don’t you republish the bible and get rid of all the Catholic verses that refute your personal beliefs? I think if you did that Ralphy’s Catholic Church bible would contain less than 100 protestant-verses. Then you could carry around onlt the “important vereses” in a little fact booklet in your shirt pocket rather than a big bulky bible.

James

I see that Ralphy still has that OSAS template over his Bible.

 

[cazayoux]

… if I had stayed in the “Roman” catholic church I never would have been saved, as I was never taught how to be saved, only how to be a Roman cathoilc. Now I can follow the Bible and know where I am going and doing, guided by the Holy Spirit. Ralph

I do realize that since the late 40’s education about the Catholic faith was severely lacking. If you joined a faith that has you reading and learning the bible, that is not a bad place to be… for now.

I had a friend that left the Catholic Church and was Methodist.
When Catholic, he wasn’t much of a Catholic. Didn’t know or explore his faith.
When Methodist, he was studying the bible.
He studied himself right back to the Catholic Church.
He told me that he realized where the TRUTH actually is.

The poor education within the Catholic Church is now changing.
The teens I teach KNOW the faith, so much more than I did at the same age.

I’ll say that you going to this non-Catholic Church and giving you a love for scripture is a GOOD thing.
Now that you are into it, you GOTTA love it … AND FOLLOW WHERE IT LEADS YOU.

Nobody would ever say that your falling in love with scripture in this church is a bad thing.
If you really do honestly follow truth, I know you will see the prejudice taught to you in this church has given you a filter for reading scripture and viewing the Catholic Church.

Pray for the scales to be removed so that you can read scripture without the filter.

Eventually, when you are again Catholic, you will cherish the good than you received from your current church. Your fervor will be a great gift to the Catholic Church when you come home. You will be a great ‘Roman’ Catholic one day!

michel

 

[twb1621]

First of all, I am in the catholic church, I am just not in the "Roman"catholic church. I am a born again christian and if I had stayed in the “Roman” catholic church I never would have been saved, as I was never taught how to be saved, only how to be a Roman cathoilc. Now I can follow the Bible and know where I am going and doing, guided by the Holy Spirit. Ralph

No, now you can make the Bible fit to what is more convenient to you. your sense of responsibility is twisted. It was your lack of or weakness of Faith, not the CC. You blame the faith of Catholicism for your failure to assume your own responsibility and continue learning and seeking and living, and growing in the teachings of Jesus Christ. It was never the responsibility of the Church to seek to strengthen your faith for you but for you to seek to strengthen those things you were weak in. Do you think Catholics do not experience the gifts of the Holy Spirit or that He dwells only in those who call themselves “born again”? I was raised Catholic, left it for probably the same ignorance you did, but after 25 years I realized something in me was terribly wrong because my thinking was no different than those who went out with their own beliefs, except some started their own denominations. It was only after I took on my responsibility to my own soul that I realized and was “Born Again” into the Holy Spirit. Only the truth is I was awakened to that which I was already baptized to be, the indelible mark on my soul that I finally recognized and which only then I allowed guiding me to the Truth. So don’t bother trying to place blame for your failure to live up to your responsibilities on the CC, because each one of us is the CC and each of us has the same responsibility just as you had, have. I can tell you there are many here who are of the Holy Spirit. Consider this; the deceit of Satan is difficult to recognize but if something tells you to do or follow something that says you don’t need “this” or “that” or don’t have to make an effort to live the life Jesus calls us to through charity and humility, your heading in the wrong direction.

 

[benedicta00]

First of all, I am in the catholic church, I am just not in the "Roman"catholic church. I am a born again christian and if I had stayed in the “Roman” catholic church I never would have been saved, as I was never taught how to be saved, only how to be a Roman cathoilc. Now I can follow the Bible and know where I am going and doing, guided by the Holy Spirit. Ralph

oh Lord have mercy… so we are all unsaved?

 

[benedicta00]

Ralph, I do not understand why you have not answered me.

If you are saved as you say, and you can not lose this salvation-- why do you confess your sins to God? What is the **point **in that?

I mean since us Catholics do not know how to ‘get saved’ and all we know is how to be Catholic then this should be a easy thing for you to explain to me.

 

[Howie01]

twb1621:

Howie01, Moses of course is an Israelite but not the sole one subject to the chapter you referenced nor was the verse I referenced specific to Moses. My point is Moses is not the subject of the verses, the entire nation of the chosen people are.

And my point is that Moses fell badly. Badly enough for God to take Moses’ life, and to keep him out of the promised land.

But did God revoke Moses’ salvation because of his terrible fall, and his breaking faith with God?

 

[benedicta00]

And my point is that Moses fell badly. Badly enough for God to take Moses’ life, and to keep him out of the promised land.

But did God revoke Moses’ salvation because of his terrible fall, and his breaking faith with God?

So IOW Moses purgatory was spent on earth.

 

[allhers]

Saved means to me, that if I should die right now I would go home to heaven instantly. Salvation means that ALL my sins are paid for by the blood of Christ on Calvary, how greatful I am for that. PTL Ralph

See ralphy, this is the part that doesn’t compute, IF you believe that you would go to heaven right now, why would you have to confess your sins?

Obviously you believe the same thing, although, in a different way, as us, whom you call Roman Catholics believe.

We believe that Jesus instituted all of His Sacraments and that they are the normal way for the means of God’s grace to be transmitted to us, in Baptism, and in Confession, (which are just two of the seven Sacraments.) How then, is God’s grace transmitted to you?

(and what does PTL mean before your signature at the end of your answer to me above?)

 

[jmcrae]

(and what does PTL mean before your signature at the end of your answer to me above?)

PTL is “Praise The Lord.”

You are probably too young to remember Tammy Faye and Jimmy Bakker’s church, the PTL Society.

 

[ralphy]

So God hog ties us and takes us to heaven anyway, eh?

Is there sin in heaven ralphy?

if a person willfully of his own free will chooses sin over and over, unto death why would he *want *to go to heaven where no sin exists? does God force us there for Christ’s sake?

Sin is a total rejection of God and His salvation, no? You disagree?

But if you are referring to sins of weakness and not intentional willful sin that is nothing more then rejection of grace, and that person *does *profess faith in Christ for the times they fail through weakness… not intent, then i agree, that person is saved “as though by fire.”

So this brings me back to my original question that it looks as if you refuse to answer it… why confess your sins at all if you are ‘saved’?

It seems to me intentional mortal sin (willfully rejection of God) would require some sort of confession. You disagree? becuase we have chosen to forfeit our salvation through willful sin.

Take a look at 1st John 1:8-10 and 1st John 2:1,2. Sin is not a total rejection of salvation. And there is no sin in heaven. Ralph

 

[allhers]

PTL is “Praise The Lord.”

You are probably too young to remember Tammy Faye and Jimmy Bakker’s church, the PTL Society.

…more likely I’m too old and never watched that show. (knew better, LOL)

Thanks for telling me what ( PTL ) Praise the Lord is though, I guess I ought to have known better about that too, I do indeed Praise HIM. (I just don’t get all the abbreviations that people use on here.)

 

[AwGusTeen]

Take a look at 1st John 1:8-10 and 1st John 2:1,2. Sin is not a total rejection of salvation. And there is no sin in heaven. Ralph

Ralph:
Clearly, everyone on earth sins. Since there is no sin in heaven, some process must take place after death that will cleanse us of any remaining sins. What do you think that process is?

 

[ralphy]

What is the street address of your so called catholic church? Does your preacher have a divine priestly anointing? Who laid hands on him? Was it somone with real apostolic authority or was it just somone who wanted to shake his hand when he signed the “preacher” contract for the church and agreed to teach the doctrines that the church owners or corporation board of directors wanted him to teach in exchange for the job and salary?

Ralph, why don’t you republish the bible and get rid of all the Catholic verses that refute your personal beliefs? I think if you did that Ralphy’s Catholic Church bible would contain less than 100 protestant-verses. Then you could carry around onlt the “important vereses” in a little fact booklet in your shirt pocket rather than a big bulky bible.

James

You have been looking into my pocket James. I in fact do carry some Gospel tracts in my shirt pocket, which explains Gods plan of salvation, and I frequently give them to people who are willing to take them. I also explain to them Gods plan of salvation if they are willing to listen. I gave one to a young lady in the hospital today,her mother was lying in bed, with about 3 weeks to live. I will go visit her again as she was sedated at the time. I am tempting to follow the mandate that Christ left us, to go into all the world and preach the gospel of salvation. By the way, if you really want my address where we as a church gather, I can give you the building address, however the church I belong to is universal. If you want to find this church (the body of Christ),all you have to do is look close by you somewhere and see where the saved people are gathering. Ralph

 

[jmcrae]

You have been looking into my pocket James. I in fact do carry some Gospel tracts in my shirt pocket, which explains Gods plan of salvation, and I frequently give them to people who are willing to take them.

Instead of giving us a Bible, why did God not give us Gospel tracts? If everything one needs to know is contained in the tract, to omit all that fluff and other unnecessary stuff that we find in the Bible?

 

[ralphy]

Ralph:
Clearly, everyone on earth sins. Since there is no sin in heaven, some process must take place after death that will cleanse us of any remaining sins. What do you think that process is?

There is no process to remove sin after we die, if we are saved, we are covered by the Blood of Christ, our sin is taken care of. The bible says, it is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. Heb 9:27
Ralph

 

[cazayoux]

There is no process to remove sin after we die, if we are saved, we are covered by the Blood of Christ, our sin is taken care of. The bible says, it is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. Heb 9:27
Ralph

Heb 9:27
[27] And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment,

This is not in conflict with Catholic teaching at all.

Matt 12:32
[32] And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Catholics read ALL of scripture.
What does the non-Catholic Christian do with this passage regarding the unforgivable sin?
This sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
If your interpretation of Heb 9:27 were correct, there would be no need for the last half of the verse Matt 12:32. But it’s there.

It seems there are sins, not against the Holy Spirit, that can be forgiven either in this age or in the age to come.

michel

 

[cazayoux]

Instead of giving us a Bible, why did God not give us Gospel tracts? If everything one needs to know is contained in the tract, to omit all that fluff and other unnecessary stuff that we find in the Bible?

Amen to that.
We have seen here what happens when bible tract christianity meets bible christianity.
The Catholics (bible Christians) are DISCUSSING scripture WITH context, while the bible tract theologists merely cite scripture verses with no context whatsoever.

michel

 

[paul_c]

Take a look at 1st John 1:8-10 and 1st John 2:1,2. Sin is not a total rejection of salvation. And there is no sin in heaven. Ralph

Sin, is by definition, a rejection of God’s will. You seem to beleive that sin has no ramifications. Well, you are clearly wrong. Have you ever read the story of the woman caught in adultery (John 8: 3-11). In case you haven’t, Here it is:
Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She replied, “No one, sir.” Then Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin any more.”

Note, she is a sinner. Jesus saves her but he also tells her to sin no more. This in an analogy for all of us.

After you are saved (we believe this happens when we are baptized), you need to live lives of holiness to continue being saved, Just as he told the adulteress. Like her, if we return to our sins, we will no longer be saved.

 

[Ceil-1]

Ralphy, where in the Bible does it say our sins are “covered”?

No one is saying sins are forgiven after we die. The state of our soul is permanent once we die. Then we are judged. When we are judged, it is already overwith. What are you talking about?

You need to read and reflect more, and post less. That is what is wrong with young people today. Fuzzy thinking, and rushing to judgement. This puts you in a dangerous position and makes you easy prey for the devil, my dear.