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ralphy
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2 Tim 3:16. Ralph
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Shannon9791
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Hey Ralphy, I see that you didn’t answer my last question, and that’s fine, because I’m coming with a new one. And I want you to answer me sincerely. Why are you here?
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agbasinger
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Thank you.
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AwGusTeen
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Thanks for the definition. Now that we have that out of the way, please answer the question that has been asked by several people here. I reiterate – Why do you use a concordance (or anuthing welse for that matter) if your the sole authority regarding faith and morals resides in scripture alone? Please answer the questioin and stop danciong around it.
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ralphy
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Absolutely not, it expresses no view at all, nor does it organize anything. If you get a chance you should take a look at one. Ralph
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ralphy
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I am here to inject scripture into this conversation as I have said all along. I believe that scripture is what we are to follow and nothing else, as we will be judged in the end by the Word of god. Ralph
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SteveGC
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Hi Ralph.
Question.
If I wrote a book, left it at your doorstep for you to find, and within it on the first page it said this…
“The writings and teachings in this book are inspired by the grace of God. They are God breathed and are to be held sacred and true by all who believe in Him”.
and then you proceeded to read the rest of the book…
would you believe and trust in everything else that I wrote in there? In other words, was that “verse” I wrote on the first page sufficient authority for you to believe what follows?
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ralphy
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Dah! God says ALL scripture is inspired, unless you discount 2Tim as not being scripture. Maybe you are just being funny, I am really not sure. Ralph
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Shannon9791
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So what would happen if you did nothing? If you took your knowledge and kept it all for yourself?
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twb1621
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Because you are promoting ignorance to seeking the truth. You ignore at least half of them if they contain Biblical quotes that contradict what you promote because you can’t explain how your interpretation can be the opposite of the gospel quotes.
come on Ralphy, if you believe you are correct in what you promote (and you must know that the Bible does not contradict itself), why did you ignore so many posts I submitted (not counting others who posted) with verses from the gospel with no response, such as Posts #862, 848, 816, 712, and many others. By the way, at no time did God take away our free will and all the works we perform or fail in are in fact of our freedom to perform which is why the GOSPELS INSTRUCT THE CHRISTIANS ON WHAT THEY SHOULD DO TO RETAIN SALVATION.
Read the posts you hide from Ralphy and respond to them and if you can’t stop selling the distorted views you are until you figure ALL of the “word” out.
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ralphy
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Do you believe what God says? Do you believe the Bible? Do you trust what God says is true? Do you even have a Bible? Ralph
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SteveGC
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Ok, ralph. I did my part. I answered your questions. See how that works? Now, be a good reciprocator, and answer mine please.
thank you.
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ralphy
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Then I would not be completing my mandate, to go into all the world and preach the word of God. It’s just that simple. Ralph
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twb1621
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Because you are promoting ignorance to seeking the truth. You ignore at least half of them if they contain Biblical quotes that contradict what you promote because you can’t explain how your interpretation can be the opposite of the gospel quotes.
come on Ralphy, if you believe you are correct in what you promote (and you must know that the Bible does not contradict itself), why did you ignore so many posts I submitted (not counting others who posted) with verses from the gospel with no response, such as Posts #862, 848, 816, 712, and many others. By the way, at no time did God take away our free will and all the works we perform or fail in are in fact of our freedom to perform which is why the GOSPELS INSTRUCT THE CHRISTIANS ON WHAT THEY SHOULD DO TO RETAIN SALVATION.
Read the posts you hide from Ralphy and respond to them and if you can’t, stop selling the distorted views you are until you figure ALL of the “word” out.
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agbasinger
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I agree. I am a Lit teacher and we treat dictionaries and thesaurii with same respect- factually neutral and unbiased. However, when applying the given information, you must interpret with a bias; otherwise you are simply repeating the information in a different format.
The priesthood of believers is a wonderful proof for the interpretation of scripture. However, Christianity is not a democracy. Some people simply have a greater understanding. Those people become Bishops, Cardinals, and even Popes.
Ralphy, you have the ability to interpret scripture, but you don’t have the authority reinterpret the Church’s teachings on the matter.
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twb1621
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I disagree with one point. That Ralphy does not have the ability to interpret scripture or he would not be promoting an interpretation that conflicts with itself.
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Shannon9791
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So you’re saying it takes something other than faith to “complete your mandate?” You can’t say yes to that question, even though you just did. Ralphy, do you see where your illogical position takes you? You’ve backed yourself into a corner you can’t get out of and you have to either admit you’re wrong and really take a look at everything you’ve been saying, or just keep up with the nonsense. What we’ve all been telling you here is that Catholicism, the Church Jesus Christ founded, the Church that gave you the scriptures you cling to so dearly, is the ONLY logical choice when it come to Christianity. Please, please, please listen to what we’re trying to say here, your soul depends on it, and we all care enough about you to try and get you to see that.
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Dchsknight
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Hey Ralphy, 2Tim 3:16, has nothing to do with proving that God inspired men to write the bible. Paul is writing to timothy, telling how to teach and his final charge is to use scripture, BECAUSE (insert verse 2 tim 3:16). You really need to stop taking verses out and using them to fit your words. READ THE WHOLE THING.
Timothy was kind of like a second generation priest. He was getting ready to take over several churches and Paul was writing him to tell him how to do it. Ralphy, I will pray for you, because you really have no understanding of the word of God and how it works. You need to read the whole chapter not just a verse, you need to read the whole book, not just a chapter. And you need to read it understanding the times it was written. DID YOU KNOW That the who numbering system that we have in the bible did not exist back then?! did you know that the headings before the chapters did not exist?! Shocking, I know to find out that the Bible that we have no did not exist when Paul was writing the letters to his Churches. Shocking, I know, that the very bible that you hold in your hand was made by… CATHOLICS! So if it were not for the Benedictine monks huddled in dark Catacombs escaping the persecution of Nero and all the other evil emperors, Writing down and translating the word of God, you would not have a bible. So get over yourself.
Stop Cherry picking verses and read the whole word of God.
Timothy was kind of like a second generation priest. He was getting ready to take over several churches and Paul was writing him to tell him how to do it. Ralphy, I will pray for you, because you really have no understanding of the word of God and how it works. You need to read the whole chapter not just a verse, you need to read the whole book, not just a chapter. And you need to read it understanding the times it was written. DID YOU KNOW That the who numbering system that we have in the bible did not exist back then?! did you know that the headings before the chapters did not exist?! Shocking, I know to find out that the Bible that we have no did not exist when Paul was writing the letters to his Churches. Shocking, I know, that the very bible that you hold in your hand was made by… CATHOLICS! So if it were not for the Benedictine monks huddled in dark Catacombs escaping the persecution of Nero and all the other evil emperors, Writing down and translating the word of God, you would not have a bible. So get over yourself.
Stop Cherry picking verses and read the whole word of God.
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twb1621
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Originally Posted by ralphy
You are mistaken my friend, verse 20 refers to those who are saved, they are in good soil planted in Christ through “the word of God” and are producing good fruit. There is no reference to them turning away from the Lord. We are kept by the power of God, and nothing can take us out of His hand. Ralph**
You are sadly yet defiantly wrong my wayward brother and you should read it repeatedly until you get it correctly. It speaks of those who were Baptized and accepted as chosen with Moses in both the OT and then those in the NT. It speaks to those who are Baptized in the Holy Spirit and warns them of what could be and what not to become. You can not say any longer you didn’t have the opportunity to learn the truth.
1 Corinthians CH10; 1 1 I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, 2 and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 All ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, 2 and the rock was the Christ. 5 Yet God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the desert. 63 These things happened as examples for us, so that we might not desire evil things, as they did. 7 And do not become idolaters, as some of them did, as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to revel.” 8 Let us not indulge in immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell within a single day. 9 Let us not test Christ 4 as some of them did, and suffered death by serpents. 10 Do not grumble as some of them did, and suffered death by the destroyer. 11 These things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come. 5**12 ****Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall. **
Ralphy;
No, Ralphy didn’t come here looking for answers, he came trying to misguide others into his way of thinking but for someone so concerned for his eternal life as he claims to be he should remember as he trys to do so;
Jesus said;
“…Keep watch over yourselves and over the whole flock of which the holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, in which you tend the church of God that he acquired with his own blood. I know that after my departure savage wolves will come among you, and they will not spare the flock. And from your own group, men will come forward perverting the truth to draw the disciples away after them."
Ralphy, In what you have chosen to do and are doing according to your own words in earlier posts, have you considered you have become one of those who abandoned the Bride of Christ to become one of the “perverters of truth”, as Jesus Himself referred?
consider it Ralphy,
Originally Posted by ralphy
You are mistaken my friend, verse 20 refers to those who are saved, they are in good soil planted in Christ through “the word of God” and are producing good fruit. There is no reference to them turning away from the Lord. We are kept by the power of God, and nothing can take us out of His hand. Ralph**
You are sadly yet defiantly wrong my wayward brother and you should read it repeatedly until you get it correctly. It speaks of those who were Baptized and accepted as chosen with Moses in both the OT and then those in the NT. It speaks to those who are Baptized in the Holy Spirit and warns them of what could be and what not to become. You can not say any longer you didn’t have the opportunity to learn the truth.
1 Corinthians CH10; 1 1 I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, 2 and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 All ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, 2 and the rock was the Christ. 5 Yet God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the desert. 63 These things happened as examples for us, so that we might not desire evil things, as they did. 7 And do not become idolaters, as some of them did, as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to revel.” 8 Let us not indulge in immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell within a single day. 9 Let us not test Christ 4 as some of them did, and suffered death by serpents. 10 Do not grumble as some of them did, and suffered death by the destroyer. 11 These things happened to them as an example, and they have been written down as a warning to us, upon whom the end of the ages has come. 5**12 ****Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall. **
Ralphy;
No, Ralphy didn’t come here looking for answers, he came trying to misguide others into his way of thinking but for someone so concerned for his eternal life as he claims to be he should remember as he trys to do so;
Jesus said;
“…Keep watch over yourselves and over the whole flock of which the holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, in which you tend the church of God that he acquired with his own blood. I know that after my departure savage wolves will come among you, and they will not spare the flock. And from your own group, men will come forward perverting the truth to draw the disciples away after them."
Ralphy, In what you have chosen to do and are doing according to your own words in earlier posts, have you considered you have become one of those who abandoned the Bride of Christ to become one of the “perverters of truth”, as Jesus Himself referred?
consider it Ralphy,
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