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Not true, works follow salvation. Works will be judged at the judgement seat of Christ to see if they are worth anything as rewards (not for salvation), are they stubble or hay, or will they come through the fire as refined. Ralph
Then help me to understand the parable of the true vine and the branches.

John 15:1-6
[1] "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser.
[2] Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
[3] You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you.
[4] Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.
[5] I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
[6] If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned.

“branch of mine” = Christians

If these Christians do not ‘bear fruit’ (abiding in the vine), they are taken away.
Those that do not abide in Him are cast forth, gathered and thrown into the fire.

Abiding in Him is DOING the works that God set aside for us … our ability to DO these good works comes from the power of Jesus, not ourselves … if we do not DO these good works (bear fruit) we are cast into the fire (hell).

michel
 
Howie,I must agree with the things you say. I was a catholic for 43 years and did not have Christ in my heart, only my head. When I turned to Christ and accepted Him as my personal savior, He changed my life and now I know He lives within me. I only follow the Bible as this is what we will be judged by in the end. PTL, Ralph
Ralphy: I agree. And as the Bible clearly shows:
2 Corinthians 5:10 “For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad,”

Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am comming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.”
 
Not true, works follow salvation. Works will be judged at the judgement seat of Christ to see if they are worth anything as rewards (not for salvation), are they stubble or hay, or will they come through the fire as refined. Ralph
Ralph, I’ve always stuggled with this concept and no one has ever explained it. Perhaps you can. If you are already saved without works, what are the rewards you get for doing works, if not salvation itself? Are there degrees of heaven that you can attain to, in your theology? What are the rewards you are describing?
 
Hi paul
I’ve heard of “storing up treasures in heaven” while on earth (through our good works). I don’t know the official Catholic position on this. I know that this is a huge belief of sola fide believers…the fact that it’s just belief, and then works automatically follow, but the works do not exist to say “yes” to God and freely DO His will, but rather the works both “provide evidence” of the faith, AND store up treasure in heaven. According to this belief, some will have more than others there, I don’t necessarily disagree with the appropriation of reward, but of course, to think that this is the ONLY purpose of our works on earth is a dangerous theology. Sola fide believers use this “build up rewards” belief to justify why good works are important, but not necessary.
 
If it is not in scripture, then it came from man. Ralph
Where is that in the Bible? I thought John said that there was so much that was ‘not’ in the bible that it would fill up the world (paraphrase)?
 
Where is that in the Bible? I thought John said that there was so much that was ‘not’ in the bible that it would fill up the world (paraphrase)?
What is written in the Bible came from God, written by men under the inspiration of the Holy spirit. What is outside of the Bible came from man based on his own ideas. Ralph
 
What is written in the Bible came from God, written by men under the inspiration of the Holy spirit. What is outside of the Bible came from man based on his own ideas. Ralph
I’m sorry. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I want to know where that teaching is in the Bible. Please show me a text that teaches what you are asking me to believe.
 
I’m sorry. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I want to know where that teaching is in the Bible. Please show me a text that teaches what you are asking me to believe.
I refer you to 2 Peter 1:19-21. I also ask you why you call the pope “holy Father”. Ralph
 
We all went to mass every sunday, confession about once a week, did our church duties and all that the church required.
  • mass every Sunday
  • confession regularly
It’s not just a Church requirement, did you know this is right from scripture? Want to see where?
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Ralphy:
In those days catholics were advised not to read the bible, so as not to get the wrong meaning.
The Church was opposed to individual private interpretation of scripture.
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ralphy:
In sunday school we were taught from the catechism (church teaching), no bible study.
Sunday school?

BTW, which catechism were you using, the Baltimore? That’s the one I had. Plenty of scripture in it.

Also my friend, when scripture says the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth [1 Tim 3:15] the only Church that was there, was the Catholic Church.
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ralphy:
In 1977,I was invited to a bible study with about 12 people attending at that time. When I received a bible and began to look into Gods word (nobody said anything about what faith I was in) , we just looked at bible and discussed what it said in there. I realized that what I was reading did not match up to what the church had taught me.
Even if you didn’t read the bible privately for 43 years, which looks like the case
  • if you went to mass every Sunday as you say you did, in 3 years the entire bible was read to you. And it would have been read to you as it was meant to be connected between the books of the OT, Psalms, and NT. Pointing you to the one who you receive at the Eucharist. In 43 years, participating in mass faithfully on Sunday, you would have heard the entire bible read to you 14+ times.
  • That is the minimum amount of bible exposure you would have had. This however, NEVER precluded you from doing extra reading on your own 🙂
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ralphy:
This presented a problem, someone was wrong. I was taught that the Roman catholic church was the only true church and everyone else was wrong.
We know who started the Catholic Church. NO ONE had the right to divide from the Church. NOR could they start a new church. Protestantism can’t trace their roots farther back than the father of protestantism which is Luther, NOT Jesus.

The Church of Rome is IN scripture. Who do you think the book of Romans is written to? And what does Paul say to the Church of Rome both in his opening and closing remarks?
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Rm 1:
1* Paul, a servant * of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God. 2 which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy scriptures, 3 the gospel concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh 4 and designated * Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5* through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations, 6 including yourselves who are called to belong to Jesus Christ; 7* To all God’s beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 8* First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is proclaimed in all the world. 9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I mention you always in my prayers, 10* asking that somehow by God’s will I may now at last succeed in coming to you. 11 For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you, 12 that is, that we may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith, both yours and mine.

Rm 16:

17* I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. 18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, * and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded. 19* For while your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, I would have you wise as to what is good and guileless as to what is evil; 20* then the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Catch that ralphy? You divided from the Church of Rome.
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ralphy:
God’s word did not tell me that, He said that those who belong to the body of Christ are His church, these are the called out ones of God. I also saw in the bible that we will be judged by the word of God and not by what man say’s. So after many studies in the bible I came to the conclusion that I would do what the word of God told me to do. I will give you some verses as to how I got saved:

John 14:6,
Acts 3:19,
Acts 13:31,
Romans 10:13,
John 5:24.
What about

Heb 10:
26 For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27* but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.
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ralphy:
I know I am saved by the word of God,covered by His blood and will go home to glory when I pass away or when the "rapture" (the taken away occurs).
You insist everything you believe must be from scripture
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4959463&postcount=111

Well, the rapture came from John Darby in the 1800’s… Just like protestantism came from dissenters starting in the 16th century
 
So Ralphy, If I understand the chronology right, you left Catholicism in 1977 at age 43 and you have spent the last 32 years as a Protestant of some type, So this isn’t a recent event. Do I have this correct?

And these are the 5 verses that turned you from Catholicism, right:

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

,Acts 3:19 Repent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be wiped away,

Acts 13:31, and for many days he appeared to those who had come up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem. These are (now) his witnesses before the people

Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

John 5:24. Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.
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I always find it interesting when people pull out one verse and ascribe all kinds of meaning to it without considering context. For instance, if you read jsut 3 verses further in John 5 you would get: John 5:28-29 ==>
Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.

Clearly it is more than just believing that gets you eternal life. You need to have done good deeds. Sure, you need to have faith first, but you still have the responsibility to live out that faith. This is basic Catholic teaching.

The same goes for Romans; If you read the entire epistle, you would know that in Chapter 2, verses 1-16 Paul says:
Therefore, you are without excuse, every one of you who passes judgment. For by the standard by which you judge another you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the very same things. We know that the judgment of God on those who do such things is true. Do you suppose, then, you who judge those who engage in such things and yet do them yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you hold his priceless kindness, forbearance, and patience in low esteem, unaware that the kindness of God would lead you to repentance? By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, **who will repay everyone according to his works eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. ** Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek.

There is no partiality with God. All who sin outside the law will also perish without reference to it, and all who sin under the law will be judged in accordance with it. For it is not those who hear the law who are just in the sight of God; rather, those who observe the law will be justified. For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even defend them
on the day when,** according to my gospel, God will judge people’s hidden works through Christ Jesus**.

So in both your accounts, you have cherrypicked one verse out of context that seems to contradict the overall message of the gospel. Works are necessary to demonstrate faith and will be the focus of the judgment of whether you are granted eternal life in heaven or not.
My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary. He also said that there is no more sacrifice for sin, it is finished. Put your complete faith and trust in the finished work of Calvary, and live for Him through the power of the Holy spirit which indwells you when you get saved. Ralph
 
I refer you to 2 Peter 1:19-21.
2 Peter 1:19-21 (English Standard Version)
19And we have something more sure, the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. 21For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Amen! I believe in that. 🙂

Now where in there does is say “If it is not in scripture, then it came from man.” I just don’t see it. This is talking about prophesy. Are you saying that everything has to be prophesy to be true? That seems a little odd. Or am I misunderstanding you? Please provide a text and your interpretation so that I might understand your thoughts better.
 
Hi paul
I’ve heard of “storing up treasures in heaven” while on earth (through our good works). I don’t know the official Catholic position on this. I know that this is a huge belief of sola fide believers…the fact that it’s just belief, and then works automatically follow, but the works do not exist to say “yes” to God and freely DO His will, but rather the works both “provide evidence” of the faith, AND store up treasure in heaven. According to this belief, some will have more than others there, I don’t necessarily disagree with the appropriation of reward, but of course, to think that this is the ONLY purpose of our works on earth is a dangerous theology. Sola fide believers use this “build up rewards” belief to justify why good works are important, but not necessary.
Explain the concept of treasure in heaven. Why would we need any treasure in heaven? Isn’t the bliss associated with being with God? Why do we need anything more?
 
My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary. He also said that there is no more sacrifice for sin, it is finished. Put your complete faith and trust in the finished work of Calvary, and live for Him through the power of the Holy spirit which indwells you when you get saved. Ralph
I see you are still having a problem distinguishing between Redemption and Salvation.
 
My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary. He also said that there is no more sacrifice for sin, it is finished. Put your complete faith and trust in the finished work of Calvary, and live for Him through the power of the Holy spirit which indwells you when you get saved. Ralph
Pardon my interruption.

Ralphy, it seems that perhaps there might be some misunderstanding with regard to how we view the effect of good works and the work of Our Lord. If I’m wrong, Paul C, please correct me. Christ’s job was to enable a washing away of original sin, and to open the gates of heaven that we might enter as before it was inaccessible. Once we are baptized, the stain of original sin is washed away and we are made clean. Then comes the hard part, staying clean. Life is full of mud puddles everywhere. If we use that analogy, you believe that Christ offers us a nice plank to cross all the puddles and get to Heaven. I think Paul C would argue that he hosed us off, and give us the chance of wiping off the mud we collect as we trudge along. Either way, the completeness of Christ’s work is determined by how we define the why. Was his sacrifice so that we might enter heaven, or that we will enter heaven? So, yes, by your definition it seems a Catholic understanding of the world says His work is not yet done. However, a Catholic would argue that his work is done, because we are given the free will to turn from his grace and reject him up until death.

Uh, I hope that made sense and I’m not repeating gibberish. Apologetics of any sort are scary.
 
My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary. He also said that there is no more sacrifice for sin, it is finished. Put your complete faith and trust in the finished work of Calvary, and live for Him through the power of the Holy spirit which indwells you when you get saved. Ralph
Ralph, There is no more sacrifice for sin. It was completed. Now, following our baptism because of that sacrifice, we are in the state of Grace. It is our responsibility to stay that way following Jesus’ example of holiness. That involves doing works of mercy. Jesus said that specifically in Matt 19: 16-19. He did not sacrifice himself for us to take away our responsibility for seeking holiness. he sacrificed himself so we can be saved.
 
Explain the concept of treasure in heaven. Why would we need any treasure in heaven? Isn’t the bliss associated with being with God? Why do we need anything more?
That’s what I would think too.

The way I’ve heard it is that the “new earth” of heaven will include many of the same types of societal “needs” or “roles” that we have today, even though all will be perfected and pure.

To that end, there may be “leaders” and “teachers” (of what I don’t know) and “tillers” and “providers” and on and on. The idea is that there is a hierarchical system of the sons and daughters of God, and those in higher positions enjoy higher “satisfaction?” and rewards? while the lesser roles do not. This is mere speculation and I don’t know how proponents of this theory argue it from scripture.

I also don’t know how they account for scriptural evidence of perfect bliss for all the saved, and no mention of varying degrees of bliss. But anyway, this is the argument, that some will “enjoy” heaven more, but no one will NOT enjoy it.

I think it takes away from the primary focus (and teaching) of heaven, which is full communion with God and ultimate bliss in the eternity of the beatific vision. That’s just me (and probably you too, and most Catholics). Anyway, there you have it.
 
My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary. He also said that there is no more sacrifice for sin, it is finished. Put your complete faith and trust in the finished work of Calvary, and live for Him through the power of the Holy spirit which indwells you when you get saved. Ralph
Ralphy:"My friend ,if works are needed to get into heaven ,then Christ did not do a complete job on the cross of Calvary"

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Bravo Ralphy - I think you FINALLY are starting to “get it”. Christ did NOT finish “everything” on the cross. What Christ finished was the payment for our sins so we could be atoned to God and so we each MIGHT be able to re-enter into friendship with God if we make a claim on that atonement through Christ’s call to grace to be baptised into His death so we MIGHT have eternal life. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OF SALVATION AND ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT THERE IS A GUARANTEE IS SELLING YOU SNAKE OIL. Get it? One MUST be baptised AND MUST follow ALL of His commandments. And one MUST carry their own cross. Christ did not come here to carry each and everyone of us without us also doing our part to carry our own crosses. EACH of us are called to carry our OWN crosses and to help others with theirs. Lip Service is NOT going to cut it. There will be many millions in hell crying “we called you Lord Lord” because they REFUSED to OBEY.

Christ died so we MIGHT be saved. Notice the keyword MIGHT in the following translations:

John 3:16-17 (KJV)
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. For god sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”

John 3:16-17 (NAB)
For God so loved the world that he gave 7 his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.

John 3:16-17 (Douay-Rheims)
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son: that whosoever believeth in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting

Paul understood well that Christ left some for us to do. Yes we must believe in Christ’s atonement but that is JUST THE START. That is to motivate us to work for our salvation by following Christ’s lead. Yes Jesus will give us the graces to help us carry our own crosses BUT the burden to follow is OURS. Not a single Jew who wandered in the dessert made it to the Promised Land by sitting on his duff. He had to talk the talk and walk the walk every single step into the Promised Land or he died in the dessert (unless family carried him when he was sick or handicapped and too weary). The same is true of the Kingdom of Heaven. This is why The Church and friends are so important to help each other carry others when they are tired and weary.

Colossians 1:24
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions.


Your salvation depends on your understanding this truth Ralphy. We can lead you to the truth but ultimately YOU must be the one that accepts it and then follows ALL Christ’s commandments - including following His appointed leaders just as the ancient Jews followed Moses in the dessert. If you wander on your own or follow some pseudo-minister you will die in the dessert and NEVER enter the promised land.

MORE PROOF THAT WE MUST LABOR TO FOLLOW CHRIST. Christ well help us when we are tired but we MUST yoke ourselves to HIM and when exhausted and tired he will refresh us. But we MUST carry the load he has allocated to each of us to bring forth God’s Kingdom and to enter into eternal beatitude.

Matthew 11:28-20
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30 “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”


If there were no requirement to do work there would be NO Acts of the Apostles Book in the bible.

James
 
That’s what I would think too.

The way I’ve heard it is that the “new earth” of heaven will include many of the same types of societal “needs” or “roles” that we have today, even though all will be perfected and pure.

To that end, there may be “leaders” and “teachers” (of what I don’t know) and “tillers” and “providers” and on and on. The idea is that there is a hierarchical system of the sons and daughters of God, and those in higher positions enjoy higher “satisfaction?” and rewards? while the lesser roles do not. This is mere speculation and I don’t know how proponents of this theory argue it from scripture.

I also don’t know how they account for scriptural evidence of perfect bliss for all the saved, and no mention of varying degrees of bliss. But anyway, this is the argument, that some will “enjoy” heaven more, but no one will NOT enjoy it.

I think it takes away from the primary focus (and teaching) of heaven, which is full communion with God and ultimate bliss in the eternity of the beatific vision. That’s just me (and probably you too, and most Catholics). Anyway, there you have it.
It will be interesting to see if any one steps up who actually believes this and explains it differently.
 
It will be interesting to see if any one steps up who actually believes this and explains it differently.
Hi again paul

The verses of choice in defense of this theory is Matt 6:19-21
  • 19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20"But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; 21for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also*
…but I can see this as simply what was intended – an admonishment against storing up physical, monetary treasures on earth, and using the same type of “storing up” language regarding treasure in heaven, but not necessarily meaning ‘some will have more, some will have less’.

Interestingly, they also use 1 Corinthians 3:8-15
  • 8Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 11For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. 14If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 15If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. *
…but this speaks more about purgatory to me than lesser and greater rewards. Purification (suffering loss) in this life and before heaven in the next, is the great equalizer of lesser and greater works in Christian life, assuming we’re talking of those in a state of grace when they die.

In general, this theory is a replacement for purgatory for some outside the Church, to explain away why it’s important to “work”.

Here’s a pdf file I found Click here
 
That’s what I would think too.

The way I’ve heard it is that the “new earth” of heaven will include many of the same types of societal “needs” or “roles” that we have today, even though all will be perfected and pure.

To that end, there may be “leaders” and “teachers” (of what I don’t know) and “tillers” and “providers” and on and on. The idea is that there is a hierarchical system of the sons and daughters of God, and those in higher positions enjoy higher “satisfaction?” and rewards? while the lesser roles do not. This is mere speculation and I don’t know how proponents of this theory argue it from scripture.

I also don’t know how they account for scriptural evidence of perfect bliss for all the saved, and no mention of varying degrees of bliss. But anyway, this is the argument, that some will “enjoy” heaven more, but no one will NOT enjoy it.

I think it takes away from the primary focus (and teaching) of heaven, which is full communion with God and ultimate bliss in the eternity of the beatific vision. That’s just me (and probably you too, and most Catholics). Anyway, there you have it.
1 Cor 2:9 “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love Him.”

There is a hierarchy in heaven and there is plenty of scriptural support for it (e.g. 9 choirs of angels, a notion of “the least” and “the greatest” in heaven - virgins, martyrs, ecclesial ordained etc.). I have come to realize through my own readings of the saints and meditation on scripture that this time on earth is a time to acquire the grace that will be ours for eternity. Those that rupture their souls through grave sin will lose all their sanctifying grace (if they ever were baptised). But those who avail themselves of all possible avenues of grace (the sacraments, penance, works of charity/love) will attain to progressively more grace and actually expand the spiritual capacity of their souls and be able to possess more grace and more deeply draw into eternal beatitude. We can never fully know God as He knows Himself since we will be divine-human nature and our finite souls clearly could never “contain” God (we would spiritually explode if God did not limit how deep we could attempt to draw into Him). But those that attain to the level of the higest angels (Mary “full of grace” is highest human) will be able to draw much deeper than the least in heaven. That however does not create jealousies since the communion of the saints is an immediate sharing of all honor and glory a particular saint receives with the others in a way that brings all immense joy.

I fully expect that God will permit us to participate with Him in new unfathomable creative acts and to govern and attend to His new creation. It would not surprise me that God did not also create entirely new higher ordered beings that we will teach and help as He continuously perfects His creation. A perfect God can never sit on His laurels and that perfection will demand endless re-perfecting and re-expression. Our new divine-human nature in heaven implies that there will be a physical dimension that will necessitate our bodily forms but we will be unconstrained and able to step into and out of time at will. Clearly too we must also be able to be in multiple places at one time or have some spiritual linkage to remain always “one” in God at all times and never out of His presence spiritually. That is about as far as I would care to speculate but know that its even much more than anything we can imagine.

James
 
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