Ralphy's Questions for Catholics

[fbl9]

Here is where you will find the book I am talking about, it’s the bible. John 12:48-50. Ralph

Ralphy,Ralphy what are we going to do with you,
now you tell us a book will come down from heaven and judge the peoples,not God but an inamite object…the bible as it stands couldn’t possible judge the peoples for by it’s own admission it does not contain all of Jesus from the gospel written by St.John21:25…
if you take the time you will notice that in the recording of the miricles worked by Jesus were accompanied by His spoken words…He did not lose any opportunity to teach something whenever He worked a miricle.

so ralphy which is it? did makind’s salvation come about by something purely physical or purely spiritual or was a combination of both?

 

[Randy_Carson]

What do you do with the statement that God said in His word “the word will judge you in the last day”? Ralph

I say, Amen! to every verse of scripture.

Now, what do you do with the fact that the Bible does not teach sola scriptura which is nothing more than a tradition of Protestant men?

 

[sodak]

“Our Lady, whose co-redemptive dignity has been recognized by the church”. I have a problem with statements like this, which are made up by the"church", and are not backed up by scripture. This is another “gospel”, God will not tolerate this type of teaching. Ralph

You also have a problem with scripture that doesn’t agree with your private interpretation, as we’ve previously noted. Posts 92 and 333 are still waiting for answers.

Here is where you will find the book I am talking about, it’s the bible. John 12:48-50. Ralph

How do you know which one is the correct Bible?

Ralphy: Will you ever answer my question: what do you think Jesus meant when he BREATHED on the disciples and gave them the power to RETAIN sin?

No, ralphy pretty much ignores substantive questions while expressing sadness at the state of our souls…

 

[ralphy]

Ralphy,Ralphy what are we going to do with you,
now you tell us a book will come down from heaven and judge the peoples,not God but an inamite object…the bible as it stands couldn’t possible judge the peoples for by it’s own admission it does not contain all of Jesus from the gospel written by St.John21:25…
if you take the time you will notice that in the recording of the miricles worked by Jesus were accompanied by His spoken words…He did not lose any opportunity to teach something whenever He worked a miricle.

so ralphy which is it? did makind’s salvation come about by something purely physical or purely spiritual or was a combination of both?

That book will not come down from heaven, we have it right now it’s called the “bible”, are you familiar with this book? You answer the question you asked me and we aill go from there. Ralph

 

[ralphy]

You also have a problem with scripture that doesn’t agree with your private interpretation, as we’ve previously noted. Posts 92 and 333 are still waiting for answers.

How do you know which one is the correct Bible?

No, ralphy pretty much ignores substantive questions while expressing sadness at the state of our souls…

You are going to tell me which bible is correct, aren’t you? Ralph.

 

[sodak]

No, I’m waiting for you to tell me. More importantly, I’m waiting for you to tell me WHY the Bible you choose is the correct one. There are many contradictory versions for sale.

 

[jmcrae]

Is the Bible Gods word? Ralph

The Bible is a collection of the writings of human beings. These writings were judged by Pope Innocent I (after consultation with three Councils of Bishops) to have been inspired by the Holy Spirit to write inerrantly on the subject of God. He gave permission for only the books on that list (and no other) to be read out at Mass and in the Liturgy of the Hours, for this reason.

However, the Bible is still just a book. If you think that the Bible is going to be conducting the Last Judgment, or that the Bible is, itself, God, then you are making a mistake.

It is Jesus Himself, who is the Word that came forth from the Father’s mouth to create all that is seen and unseen, and who will pass the Final Judgment on the Last Day.

It is not the Bible that created the world (the Bible itself was not even put together yet until the 4th century AD), nor is it the Bible that will pass judgment on it on the Last Day.

 

[fbl9]

That book will not come down from heaven, we have it right now it’s called the “bible”, are you familiar with this book? You answer the question you asked me and we aill go from there. Ralph

ok so now you are telling us that judgement time is now cause the bible is here on earth…ralphy see what happens when you try to tell those who know more than you something: you get yourself painted into a corner…
why should i answer my question for you.?is it because you can’t find the answer in your theology?

 

[ralphy]

No, I’m waiting for you to tell me. More importantly, I’m waiting for you to tell me WHY the Bible you choose is the correct one. There are many contradictory versions for sale.

I have a Roman catholic bible with me here, is that sufficient to satisfy you. Ralph

 

[ralphy]

ok so now you are telling us that judgement time is now cause the bible is here on earth…ralphy see what happens when you try to tell those who know more than you something: you get yourself painted into a corner…
why should i answer my question for you.?is it because you can’t find the answer in your theology?

I think what you are really saying is that “you” know more than God. Ralph

 

[ralphy]

The Bible is a collection of the writings of human beings. These writings were judged by Pope Innocent I (after consultation with three Councils of Bishops) to have been inspired by the Holy Spirit to write inerrantly on the subject of God. He gave permission for only the books on that list (and no other) to be read out at Mass and in the Liturgy of the Hours, for this reason.

However, the Bible is still just a book. If you think that the Bible is going to be conducting the Last Judgment, or that the Bible is, itself, God, then you are making a mistake.

It is Jesus Himself, who is the Word that came forth from the Father’s mouth to create all that is seen and unseen, and who will pass the Final Judgment on the Last Day.

It is not the Bible that created the world (the Bible itself was not even put together yet until the 4th century AD), nor is it the Bible that will pass judgment on it on the Last Day.

My friend, the bible (which is Gods word), although I am not sure that you believe that, states that we will be ludged by the word of God in the last days. How can you say that the bible “is just a book”, when it is the word of God. Ralph
Ralph

 

[CentralFLJames]

My friend, the bible (which is Gods word), although I am not sure that you believe that, states that we will be ludged by the word of God in the last days. How can you say that the bible “is just a book”, when it is the word of God. Ralph
Ralph

Ralphy, as I said previously, the bible in your hands and taught through your lips is not God’s Word at all - it is Ralphy’s word. No apostle would recognize anything you teach as anything they actually said and taught.

James

 

[SteveGC]

My friend, the bible (which is Gods word), although I am not sure that you believe that, states that we will be ludged by the word of God in the last days. How can you say that the bible “is just a book”, when it is the word of God. Ralph
Ralph

Ralphy, you are frustratingly consistent in the ambiguity of your statements…and this is why people here are challenging you.

Why can’t you just be clear? How hard is it, really?

Look…I’ll help you…

To all: Ralphy does NOT believe a BOOK will sit on a throne and judge all people in the last days. He believes that Jesus will do that (just like we all believe)…but Ralphy believes that Jesus will judge us based solely on Ralphy’s interpretive understanding of the written word alone, an interpretation which Ralphy claims is NOT his own, but that of the Holy Spirit through him.

Now, was it really that hard to clarify things for us, Ralph? Take some time for yourself and work on the clear delivery of your beliefs. It will save us ALL loads of time, and frustration.

God Bless

 

[jmcrae]

My friend, the bible (which is Gods word), although I am not sure that you believe that,

I believe that the Bible inerrently expresses some parts of God’s message (the whole of God’s message is contained in the Holy Tradition, and the Bible is a small part of the Holy Tradition) , but God’s Word (that is, what came forth from the Father’s mouth to create all that is seen and unseen) is Jesus Christ.

states that we will be ludged by the word of God in the last days.

It is the Creator (Jesus) - who is God’s Word - who will do this. Not the Bible.

 

[cazayoux]

That era is over, Christ is risen and is sitting on the right hand of the Father to intercede for us.

wait … so as soon as Jesus was risen and sitting at the right hand of the Father, that power he gave the apostles (to forgive sins) was no longer necessary?

This doesn’t make sense.
He gave them this power in John 20:21-23.
This was after his resurrection!!!
The RISEN Jesus gave the power to forgive sins to the apostles.
Let’s say it was 40 days between the resurrection and Jesus’ ascension to heaven.
That means, by your theology, that they only had this power for 40 days.

Why would Jesus do that?
When He gave them this power, he didn’t put an expiration date on it.
Why would he only give them the power for 40 days?
Why would he only give this give to the church for the apostles lifetime even?
It is a gift to the church, UNTIL HE COMES AGAIN.

michel

 

[cazayoux]

Read Eph 2:8,9 to find out about salvation. Ralph

Eph 2:8-9
[8] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God –
[9] not because of works, lest any man should boast.

AMEN !!

But, again, you are cherry picking verse.
Let’s look at the VERY NEXT VERSE.

Eph 2-10
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

context, context, context.

michel

 

[cazayoux]

You know something. The more I correspond on the internet with Roman catholics, the sadder I feel for them. I was hoping to inject some light into their system from the word of God, however the more I try to tell them that it is the word of God we will be judged by, the deeper they fall back into their familiar field of “tradition” and Roman catholic teaching, trusting in the Roman catholic church to carry them through to heaven. Believing all that the hierarchy tells them without questioning it: praying to and for the dead, purgatory, praying to saints which has nothing to do with christianity, but has a lot to do with “religion”. The Roman catholic church has added and taken away so many things I cannot count them and I would suggest that the catechism was started for that reason, in this way the church could write in a book what it wanted the people to read, which in the authors mind is true and scriptural. I suggest that you read a warning in Rev (Apocalypse)22:18,19. Ralph

Ralphy … honestly … what you see catholics doing here is sharing scripture … and a lot of it. You never actually discuss the scripture.

Between you and the Catholics on the board, which are trusting in scripture? … looks to me like the Catholics.

michel

 

[cazayoux]

I am also cathoilc, I belong to the catholic (universal) church, I am a born again Christian. PTL Ralph

YES!!

Since you were Catholic for 43 years, I assume that you were baptized Catholic.
At this point, you were a born again Christian.
… and you still are Catholic (capital ‘C’).

michel

 

[ralphy]

Ralphy, as I said previously, the bible in your hands and taught through your lips is not God’s Word at all - it is Ralphy’s word. No apostle would recognize anything you teach as anything they actually said and taught.

James

So when the disciples were speaking “through their lips”, was it Gods word, or just their own. Surely the apostles would recognize their own words that they actually said, those are the words that I was using. Ralph

 

[ralphy]

YES!!

Since you were Catholic for 43 years, I assume that you were baptized Catholic.
At this point, you were a born again Christian.
… and you still are Catholic (capital ‘C’).

michel

Baptism does not make one born again. But I am a catholic because I belong to the body of Christ, that is His church, the universal church. Ralph