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I have specifically introduced the use of numbers in Biblical texts and Revelation in particular through the one person who seemed to be on the right track - St Augustine.Oriel,
the one gift that Jesus Christ gave to the Apostles is that of the right to discern the Truth. That gift, through the Holy Spirit has been passed on via Apostolic Succession. We have the benefit of the thousands of theologians, early Christian, Catholic and Protestant, who have passed down to us, their own views on the interpretation of the Scripture. Sadly, some of those theologians have believed that they have the right to interpret scripture in such a way that only what they proclaim is the right way, even if it goes against the teachings of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
As a Catholic, I discern and accept the teachings of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. At the same time, I feel that I can learn from others, such as the late William Barclay, professor of Divinity and Biblical Criticism at University of Glasgow. He belonged to the Kirk in Scotland (Presbyterian). Even if William Barclay has made some theological errors, he remained orthodox in his study guides on the New Testament. Barclay’s study of the Book of Revelation is methodical and quite detailed. He considered as many aspects as necessary of this book to give the widest possible explanations, including Catholic understandings that were dismissed by him.
The greatest of Protestant and Catholic theological minds do not teach the dispensationalist rapture interpretation of the Scripture. As serious scholars they have studied the texts in detail and they have studied the history of the times in which the documents were written. Amongst these theologians we have the work of Dr. Scott Hahn, and he has also done a lot of study on this subject.
Apocryphl literature is very hard to understand because of the way that it is worded. There is a cosmology that is difficult to grasp unless one has an understanding of the Jewish mind responsible for the writing. This is the category in which the Book of Revelation fits. Before looking into the future aspects of the writing you need to have a thorough understanding of the history of the times, the suffering of the Christians at the time, as well as an understanding of the minds of the writer and the readers.
This kind of literature is not meant to be taken literally. There is just too much hidden meaning that surfaces. I know how I have struggled understanding much of the Book of Ezekiel because it did not make a lot of sense. Only now that I have a more mature understanding of the Scripture have I been able to grasp at what the writer was saying. I am surprised how much that book has opened up to me as I have begun to be able to put the Scripture in the whole of its context, rather than one verse here and there that supports what is truly false doctrine.
It is nothing more than an ad hominem attack to say to someone “you are lazy” just because that person does not believe in a doctrine that is so utterly flawed where logic and reason is concerned.
Maggie
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The use of 153 in Johannine theology is like 666 (to which it is associated by virtue of the same authorial community) insofar as you can arrive at the figures through simple addition
153 = 1+2+3 … 17
666 = 1+2+3…36
Now Maggie,without going through the painstaking and intricate task of sketching out the entire structure of Revelation you have at least a bridge between the Book Of Revelation and the Johannine Word.It can be objected that the connection is too meagre to be of any use however with a growing familiarity and appreceation of the Johannine author’s work,all the really silly associations between Revelation and historical Rome or Revelation and contemporary events are consigned as exotic or dour guesswork.
The closest text that approaches that of the Book Of Revelation is the artificial structure of the Matthean genealogy and the associated text,at least in terms of a geometrical/mathematical facet.So,basically anyone who wishes to appreceate Revelation is better off beginning with Matthew 1 1 -17.
The historical order of Jesus,David and Abraham is reversed in the opening line,there are 3 sets of 14 generations with a truncated 3rd section of 13 generations.There is a division of the Babylonian exile which is extremely subtle in its association with another chronology and structure.In other words,I can marvel at the economy of the Matthean author in saying so much with so little,apart from Fr Raymond Brown few have any idea just what a jewel this is.