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robwar
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well it is curious isn’t it?
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CutlerB
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Good heavens, I just read some of their “answers” to questions about Catholicism, and they are often times just so off that it is frustrating. Lots of their stuff is mere assertion and fallacy.
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ericc
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Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
God will take care of them eventually.
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JohnR77
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Notice that GotQuestions did not initially find their response irresponsible. It was only,I doubt that. More likely, someone who reads this forum and is sympathetic to them probably pointed out to them that their answer was being talked about here, and it was reflecting on them poorly.
"After reading the answer you were sent, I am surprised that one of our editors approved it.
In response to the Holocaust, what about all the Catholics who were martyred during that like Edith Stein, also known as St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, O.C.D.
In regards to Pope Pius XII, I would refer to the many Jews who defend him especially the ones doing so today. See Pope Pius XII.
More on
Spanish Inquisition
Thanks for all the research JamesTheJust. Good job.
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Texsain
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The first response, with a prayer, and then going on about your own business, is best.
If you feel you must engage, I’d simply restate the question, which wasn’t answered in the slightest. “Assuming that Evangelical apostates are either non–true-Christians ™ from the get-go or are deceived, why are they leaving their churches for the apparently most evil religion ever, rather than a slightly less evil religion, like Islam or Buddhism?”
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JohnR77
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Quote:
We could both point each other to countless testimonials from Catholics becoming Protestants and Protestants becoming Catholics. But, ultimately, what is the point of that? There are Christians who become Muslims. …
It is painful to refute GotQ because He does appear to see the obvious. He seems to equate all conversions as equal. Almost all Catholics who convert to Protestant or whatever do NOT show a deep understanding of Catholicism. Actually, they seem to have only a superficial understanding or practice. And their conversion, almost always “enables” them to live a more pleasurable - read selfish - lifestyle. They can then “justify” their second marriage, abortion, or whatever. Or, in some cases, they have an axe to grind against someone in the Catholic Church that they did not get along with. Big families are always going to have some family “issues.”
Contrast that with the Protestant ministers who converted to Catholicism.
They have much gratitude for their Protestant upbringing where they were brought to a saving relationship with Jesus Christ in their youth. They show in their stories how they had a deep understanding of Protestantism. And they usually show that their biggest obstacles to conversion were their misunderstanding of Catholicism. They had previously only examined Catholicism through the eyes of other Protestants.
These misunderstandings disappear when they start reading Catholic explanations for what Catholics believe. Their conversion to Catholicism leads them to a deeper and more profound love for Jesus- God the Son- and God the Holy Spirit and God the Father, the Blessed Trinity. With this deeper love they gladly die more deeply to themselves with a greater sacrifice for His Glory as opposed to a conversion to Protestantism that “enables” a person to “justify” whatever sin or new marriage that suits their fancy.
This conversion to Catholicism will sometimes mean that they will suffer the loss of Protestant friends who now will reject them. And yet in-spite of this suffering, they are glad to embrace the love of Jesus in the profound way that Catholicism enables them to do so. And their conversion stories show how the Bible led them to convert to Catholicism. And, unlike Catholics who convert to Protestantism and demonstrate that they only understand the Protestant way of interpreting the Bible, these now Catholic and former Protestants show that they clearly understand both ways of looking at the Bible, and why each believes as they do.
Clearly, all conversions are not equal.
I am especially thinking of
Scott Hahn, St. Paul Center For Biblical Theology http://forums.catholic-questions.org/symres:sb_safeannotation.png
Kimberly Hahn,
David Currie - David Currie**.**
Steve Ray,
catholic-convert.com/
Dave Armstrong
**Biblical Evidence for Catholicism **
**Sr. Rosalind Moss, now Mother Miriam of the Lamb of God **
householdoffaith.excerptsofinri.com/
Jimmy Akin,
jimmyakin.com/
And so many others
John
We could both point each other to countless testimonials from Catholics becoming Protestants and Protestants becoming Catholics. But, ultimately, what is the point of that? There are Christians who become Muslims. …
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It is painful to refute GotQ because He does appear to see the obvious. He seems to equate all conversions as equal. Almost all Catholics who convert to Protestant or whatever do NOT show a deep understanding of Catholicism. Actually, they seem to have only a superficial understanding or practice. And their conversion, almost always “enables” them to live a more pleasurable - read selfish - lifestyle. They can then “justify” their second marriage, abortion, or whatever. Or, in some cases, they have an axe to grind against someone in the Catholic Church that they did not get along with. Big families are always going to have some family “issues.”
Contrast that with the Protestant ministers who converted to Catholicism.
They have much gratitude for their Protestant upbringing where they were brought to a saving relationship with Jesus Christ in their youth. They show in their stories how they had a deep understanding of Protestantism. And they usually show that their biggest obstacles to conversion were their misunderstanding of Catholicism. They had previously only examined Catholicism through the eyes of other Protestants.
These misunderstandings disappear when they start reading Catholic explanations for what Catholics believe. Their conversion to Catholicism leads them to a deeper and more profound love for Jesus- God the Son- and God the Holy Spirit and God the Father, the Blessed Trinity. With this deeper love they gladly die more deeply to themselves with a greater sacrifice for His Glory as opposed to a conversion to Protestantism that “enables” a person to “justify” whatever sin or new marriage that suits their fancy.
This conversion to Catholicism will sometimes mean that they will suffer the loss of Protestant friends who now will reject them. And yet in-spite of this suffering, they are glad to embrace the love of Jesus in the profound way that Catholicism enables them to do so. And their conversion stories show how the Bible led them to convert to Catholicism. And, unlike Catholics who convert to Protestantism and demonstrate that they only understand the Protestant way of interpreting the Bible, these now Catholic and former Protestants show that they clearly understand both ways of looking at the Bible, and why each believes as they do.
Clearly, all conversions are not equal.
I am especially thinking of
Scott Hahn, St. Paul Center For Biblical Theology http://forums.catholic-questions.org/symres:sb_safeannotation.png
Kimberly Hahn,
David Currie - David Currie**.**
Steve Ray,
catholic-convert.com/
Dave Armstrong
**Biblical Evidence for Catholicism **
**Sr. Rosalind Moss, now Mother Miriam of the Lamb of God **
- Rosalind Moss’ Unexpected Journey |
householdoffaith.excerptsofinri.com/
Jimmy Akin,
jimmyakin.com/
And so many others
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JohnR77
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So sorry for having left out so many who have helped me.
I am afraid my appendages will be forever ongoing.
The Bible Made me do it !
Tim Staples - Catholic Evangelist http://forums.catholic-questions.org/symres:sb_unknownannotation.png
A Deeper Look at the Many Evangelicals Turning Catholic
by Matthew Warner
ncregister.com/blog/matthew-warner/a-deeper-look-at-the-many-evangelicals-turning-catholic
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Catholicism
facebook.com/pages/Convert-Stories-Catholic/205976872789209
My Conversion to the Catholic Church
Originally published in Surprised by Truth 3
HOW CAN I KEEP MY HEART FROM SINGING
Pam Forrester
bfhu.wordpress.com/my-conversion/
Marcus Grodi | Catholic convert, author, television and radio host
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I am afraid my appendages will be forever ongoing.
The Bible Made me do it !
Tim Staples - Catholic Evangelist http://forums.catholic-questions.org/symres:sb_unknownannotation.png
A Deeper Look at the Many Evangelicals Turning Catholic
by Matthew Warner
ncregister.com/blog/matthew-warner/a-deeper-look-at-the-many-evangelicals-turning-catholic
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Catholicism
facebook.com/pages/Convert-Stories-Catholic/205976872789209
My Conversion to the Catholic Church
Originally published in Surprised by Truth 3
HOW CAN I KEEP MY HEART FROM SINGING
Pam Forrester
bfhu.wordpress.com/my-conversion/
Marcus Grodi | Catholic convert, author, television and radio host
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JohnR77
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Sorry. A Typo. It is late. I meant
“It is painful to refute GotQ because He does** NOT** appear to see the obvious.”
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CutlerB
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And perhaps “he” not “He”
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Ron_Obvious
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DeepThawts
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This is exactly how I’d respond:
I’m sorry, I was expecting a thoughtful, factual reply to my question, not a biased, unwarranted, and fact-free diatribe. My apologies for this error in judgment. I shan’t make this error again. May God bless you."
And then I’d kick the dust from my shoes, as it were.
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Darryl_B
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That is what can be termed a diatribe, a tirade. One who does that cannot be reasoned with (like the terminator). My response would simply be shake my head in sadness, and ponder how protestantism has lost so much the track of truth so quickly by leaving the Catholic Church.
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jacobhalo
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Apparently, he or she doesn’t practice the Christian creed, Love they neighbor and enemies.
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michaelhager
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In reply to anti Catholics… have them read Rome Sweet Home by Scott and Kimberly Hahn if you can get them to open their minds just a little. As most of you will know, it’s the story of a pulpit pounding anti Catholic Protestant preacher and his wife who in their journey to prove Catholicism was false, only proved to themselves that it was the original true church founded by Christ.
The passage where he sneaks into a Catholic mass to take notes about their paganism, only to find the every word spoken was from the scriptures that he knew so well.
The three unanswerable questions that protestants have about Catholicism.
His ultimate journey, not only to Catholicism, but an honored Catholic scholar, apologist, lecturer and prolific writer is inspiring and filled with the Holy Spirit.
I was never anti Catholic (thank goodness) but Rome Sweet Home helped me make my final leap to Catholicism.
The passage where he sneaks into a Catholic mass to take notes about their paganism, only to find the every word spoken was from the scriptures that he knew so well.
The three unanswerable questions that protestants have about Catholicism.
His ultimate journey, not only to Catholicism, but an honored Catholic scholar, apologist, lecturer and prolific writer is inspiring and filled with the Holy Spirit.
I was never anti Catholic (thank goodness) but Rome Sweet Home helped me make my final leap to Catholicism.
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peace2u2
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Pray - Father God send your Holy Spirit to the staff of GotQuestions.org that respond with hatred to Your Church, open their hearts and their minds so that You may lead them to repentance and conversion. In Your Name Precious Jesus we pray. Amen.
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lazuli
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Your point about the answers of this website not being so immediately available when googling questions about the faith or claims made against it is something I have been thinking about a little bit recently too. I made a post about it today in the evangelizing subforum. It is sad to see all of that disinformation crowding out the Catholic responses.
Although, that said, I did one little test earlier by googling “whore of babylon catholic” (lol) and was very happy to see that this website’s answers to those claims were in the top two results, and a few other Catholic sources disputing those conspiracies on the same page. I don’t believe the Catholic answer is always so readily available though, like you say, and it is a bit worrying in case people don’t actively dig for credible Catholic responses (most people won’t click past the first page of results, and anti-Catholic websites often seem to dominate like you say) and take anti-Catholic websites as truth.
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Chez
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Brilliantly stated!
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Betheone
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I was curious about the site after reading through this thread, and it came upon this excerpt from their About page:
“GotQuestions.org is a volunteer ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, conservative, evangelical, fundamental, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions.”
The rest is here:
gotquestions.org/about.html
That might shed some light as to their interpretations and opinions on Catholic doctrine.
Frankly, I’ve become suspicious of the majority of Internet-based religious forums. Catholic Answers forum is one exception.
“GotQuestions.org is a volunteer ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, conservative, evangelical, fundamental, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions.”
The rest is here:
gotquestions.org/about.html
That might shed some light as to their interpretations and opinions on Catholic doctrine.
Frankly, I’ve become suspicious of the majority of Internet-based religious forums. Catholic Answers forum is one exception.
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chero23
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To me it shows ignorance and hate. This mans answers were not planned out. It seemed to me that he just answered with anger, hoping something stuck.
But, yes, this man and site need our prayers.
But, yes, this man and site need our prayers.
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