You seem to think that doing so was a bad thing. In reality the APA’s purpose was to improve public protection by reinforcing a greater criminal culpability of the individual who is predatory.Lovinglight:![]()
Yes, and let us not forget that the APA are the ones who redefined paedophilia as a “sexual orientation”.Yeah it can when everything they base in support of gender theory today comes from the APAs fishy history. It shows its invalidated.
The lay public’s fear that the use of the phrase sexual preference will lead to reduced criminal culpability may be unfounded, as this does not consider that it is established that sexual orientation cannot be altered through psychotherapy. This implies that Pedophilic Disorder cannot be fundamentally altered, or as the lay public may use the term, “ cured” and this implies even greater criminal culpability, rather than diminished responsibility. The implication is that recidivism is almost certain, and that only incapacitation and supervision will prevent Pedophiles from acting out their desires. The individual who is predatory ( Pedophilic Disordered) will not be safe around children at any point in their lives, and must therefore be contained and monitored indefinitely. There is also a misunderstanding of the law, While sexual orientation is a status generally protected by law, coerced sexual behavior, or sexual behavior with someone under the age of consent is a criminal offense, regardless of sexual preference. Read more….
If I did, I would certainly not claim that my response to him was Christian. The man is created in the image of God, and deserves my patience.Why should I facilitate someone else’s delusion? If a guy approached you on the street and proceeded to tell you that he was abducted by aliens and they’re coming for you would you not dismiss him as crazy?
The APA does not pretend to be a moral compass.The APA is just an all around badly flawed organization and shouldnt be the moral compass of anything.
There are even lobbies of psychs who are trying to work together to get their papers and studies published at great opposition by the gay lobby that runs the APA.
If you are going to respond you really should respond to what is written."In the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM V), the American Psychiatric Association (APA) drew a very distinct line between pedophilia and pedophilic disorder. Pedophilia refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality. Social conservatives said calling pedophilia an “orientation” was a step towards normalizing pedophiliac behavior.
But within days, the APA changed the classification, noting in a press release “‘Sexual orientation’ is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read 'sexual interest.’”
I was responding to @AdamPeter who was correct in what the APA did.AdamPeter:
You seem to think that doing so was a bad thing. In reality the APA’s purpose was to improve public protection by reinforcing a greater criminal culpability of the individual who is predatory.Lovinglight:![]()
Yes, and let us not forget that the APA are the ones who redefined paedophilia as a “sexual orientation”.Yeah it can when everything they base in support of gender theory today comes from the APAs fishy history. It shows its invalidated.
Sexual disorders are not my specialty but as a mental health professional I do agree with the APA’s reasoning which will likely save many children from Pedophilic predators.So do u believe pedophilia is a sexual orientation as well? Where does the madness end? Yes as u said…the APA has power to affect laws and govern everything from criminal justice to youth offenders…family law etc. Its basically morality thru the state.
You still don’t get it. The OP was not about a retraction for political reasons but was about APA labeling pedophilia an orientation.The APA retracted their assertion that pedophilia is a sexual orientation due to public outcry but its obviously what they believe.
Both you and I posted the APA’s reasoning, that you don’t agree with it does not make it wrong. What you don’t get is that it will save children from predators, either that or you don’t seem to care.No i do get it. Idc how they label pedophilia they keep changing it and will continue to do so. How can u in good conscience support pedophilia as a sexual orientation in light of what will eventually be coming down the road? The APA doesnt protect children.
That is a slippery slope fallacy. Pedophilia is a crime against children, homosexuality is not.And yeah it makes me mad that with their “expert” psychiatrists they keep paving the way for pedophilia to be normalized and accepted just as homosexuality has been.
The Man Boy Love Association has been pushing for lowering the age of consent. They claim the legal system is flawed.
The problem is that I doubt there are many people who experience attraction to children who will actually tell someone about it.I think that it might protect the potential victims of pedophiles if we showed more compassion to people who genuinely hate that they feel an attraction to children.
But this is the point in saying that we need to show compassion. As long as everyone attracted to children is branded as an evil child molester, of course people can’t seek help for such an attraction, no matter how chaste they have been. And when people can’t seek help for such an illness, they become far more likely to hurt a child. If we want to protect children, we need to create a climate in which people can seek help.The problem is that I doubt there are many people who experience attraction to children who will actually tell someone about it.
I haven’t been supporting the APA definition. But I also don’t think it is trying to normalize child abuse.We do need to show compassion. But there are also people who would love to normalise and legalise that behaviour. The APA definition does try to normalise it.
Age of consent issues have nothing to do with pedophilia. It’s never been abnormal for men and women to find 15-18 year olds attractive. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescents.That will be the net effect. There are already people openly advocating to reduce ages of consent etc.