Red Kettles: The Salvation Army and Abortion?

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Hmmm. Yes, I will abstain. Glad to see we are able to donate to Wounded Warriors according to the link in your post. Amazing how many charities are “out.” Most likely we will donate on a more local level, through church or their food pantries.
 
Catholic Charities is a much better option…locally, our parish has an Outreach program that helps needy families…I’ll give to these…
 
The SA here is involved with and co-founded a “Centre for Life” with the Archdiocese. I have also seen their soldiers stand outside the slaughter house holding signs with the Right to Life chapter here.

The same website also states…
When an unwanted pregnancy occurs, The Salvation Army counsels that the parents receive caring support for their emotional, physical, social and spiritual needs, and that the unborn child be carried to term.
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while also supporting their believe of God’s love for those in the womb. I wouldn’t think the Army outright condones abortion, but rather would seek to have a counselling and non-judgemental role in the course of a woman’s life who chooses to have an abortion.

One might also want to remember that the money in the kettle goes directly to outreach, not to the Army itself. They’ve built a new centre here for the homeless from the proceeds of last year’s kettle, and I spoke with the Corps officers of the citadel that’s in the next town over who plan to use this year’s money to pump into food packages for families that can’t afford a full grocery bill. I seriously doubt donating to the Salvation Army is dubious, as they do remarkable good for the sake of the love of God alone.
 
I don’t give to the Salvation Army. When I have a spare dollar or change I bring it to church so each of my kids gets to put something in the collection basket, one puts in the envelop with the main contribution, the others get whatever change or whatnot I happen to have.
 
Xystus said:
I don’t give to the Salvation Army. When I have a spare dollar or change I bring it to church so each of my kids gets to put something in the collection basket, one puts in the envelop with the main contribution, the others get whatever change or whatnot I happen to have.
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Honestly, I feel guilty walking by their pot on my way into the store to spend money I am blessed to have. 😊 So I drop something in on my way out of the store.
 
I hesitate to talk about this because it is the topic of ongoing legal action.

The Salvation Army has grave corruption, although this is obscured by a professional PR campaign. The “social services” of TSA are NOT separate from the church administration and bureaucracy. Funds donated by the public to “social service” appeals are diverted to other activities. TSA, as the article reports, is a very, very heterodox church.

A Catholic, or any Christian, should absolutely NOT give any financial support to the Salvation Army.
 
Thank you to the OP for providing little publicized news. Unfortunately, on the internet, truth and falsehood are both presented as goods. Finding the true good takes personal research.

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Ed
 
I’d say it depends on what you’re giving to. The SA coordinates giving toys and clothes for needy kids and I don’t see a thing wrong with picking a name from the Angel Tree and dropping off toys. Money that might be comingled with the religious side is another matter.
 
LoyalViews said:
The SA here is involved with and co-founded a “Centre for Life” with the Archdiocese. I have also seen their soldiers stand outside the slaughter house holding signs with the Right to Life chapter here.

The same website also states…

while also supporting their believe of God’s love for those in the womb. I wouldn’t think the Army outright condones abortion, but rather would seek to have a counselling and non-judgemental role in the course of a woman’s life who chooses to have an abortion.

One might also want to remember that the money in the kettle goes directly to outreach, not to the Army itself. They’ve built a new centre here for the homeless from the proceeds of last year’s kettle, and I spoke with the Corps officers of the citadel that’s in the next town over who plan to use this year’s money to pump into food packages for families that can’t afford a full grocery bill. I seriously doubt donating to the Salvation Army is dubious, as they do remarkable good for the sake of the love of God alone.
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Thank you for a balanced view,
 
PaulfromIowa said:
I hesitate to talk about this because it is the topic of ongoing legal action.

The Salvation Army has grave corruption, although this is obscured by a professional PR campaign. The “social services” of TSA are NOT separate from the church administration and bureaucracy. Funds donated by the public to “social service” appeals are diverted to other activities. TSA, as the article reports, is a very, very heterodox church.

A Catholic, or any Christian, should absolutely NOT give any financial support to the Salvation Army.
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Proof of this please?

And there is no human organisation that is free from sin, Not one
 
I don’t know about your country, but, in the US, it is a matter of public record that TSA has lost a number of lawsuits regarding illegal/unethical practices. There is, sadly, no independent accounting of many supposed charities and churches. You are correct that all human organizations contain sinners. That certainly does not mean that Christians should donate money to heterodox and unethical churches.
 
I’ll reserve my money for groups which are consistently pro-life.
Money placed in the red kettles, even if used to materially assist the poor, frees up other money to engage in activities antithetical to my faith.
 
jeannetherese said:
I’ll reserve my money for groups which are consistently pro-life.
Money placed in the red kettles, even if used to materially assist the poor, frees up other money to engage in activities antithetical to my faith.
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Exactly my feeling, too. Unfortunately, the pastor of my parish gave 2% of the parish’s income to the Salvation for designated purposes. I sent him an email about this suspicion about TSA and he has not responded.

I feel like withholding my church contribution until the matter is clarified.

Fr. Frank Pavone discouraged any support for Planned Parenthood, even the guy who fixes the photocopy machine.

on 12/16/16, Dr. Colin Donavon on EWTN radio was talking about giving or not giving to organizations or patronizing companies that support contraceptive and abortion services. HE said that the “remote” problem should not discourage us from buying products or services from a company that does that. It is so widespread, it is hard to find out what a company does with its money, and then to boycott them publicly might draw a libel suit.

I heard that Catholic Relief Services was expelled from Rwanda by the Catholic bishops for taking US aid with its strings attached to provide abortifacient drugs to their clients.

I’m so slow to react. I have known for a long time that abortion is morally wrong, but I recently had an emotional tsunami about the horror of ripping apart the bodies of the babies in the womb. I heard a description of how this premature baby in the womb was trying to avoid the abortionist’s instruments, which were tearing its limbs off. It’s horrific.
 
Irishmom2 said:
Hmmm. Yes, I will abstain. Glad to see we are able to donate to Wounded Warriors according to the link in your post. Amazing how many charities are “out.” Most likely we will donate on a more local level, through church or their food pantries.
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Haven’t read through all the reply posts here yet, but Wounded Warrior rejected money from a Church organization a few years ago precisely because they were Christian.

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2984595/posts

wptv.com/news/region-st-lucie-county/fort-pierce/wounded-warrior-project-denies-money-donation-from-a-fort-pierce-christian-school
 
I always drop some money in the kettles and have even worked them once. The money is used well here. There position statement on abortion is sound, but that has little to do with the money they collect through the kettle drive. I have had at least one case of questionable accusations from the American Life League. So while I appreciate the desire to keep people informed, I don’t believe every rumor I hear on the internet. I know that the Salvation Army helps the need to the tune of 82% of all funds, which makes them a good social justice investment, in my opinion.
 
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